albert- If your wife used Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel, it has removed most, but not all, of McAfee. (If she did something else, like only deleted the shortcut for McAfee, it's still there). You can go to the link posted above for the McAfee Uninstaller, download it, and run it to remove everything. I believe it works even if you have already done a partial removal, but not sure. At any rate it won't screw anything up to try it. Also, I've never seen McAfee automatically bill for a subsciption renewal without your consent. I suspect one of you clicked on a button somewhere - like in an email to you from McAfee, or in an update notice as the program approached the anniversary date - and that you agreed to renew your subscription, and probably had to enter your credit card info for the subscription. Lastly, reassure me that you are running some other kind of antivirus software on your computer.

I am still using 4.8 there is no big rush to go to 5 since 4.8 will be supported for quite some time, I personally like to wait a while and let them iron out all the bugs, let the ones that rush in find out all the problems, before I update. There have been several significant bugs popping up that they are working on and fixing. Some may have no problem at all where as some might never know since every system is different. I posted about some of them on the AVAST5 thread here. So that decision is totally up to you. You can put 5 over 4.8 as part of it's install process it will remove the old version however many people prefer doing a removal first, you will get both answers on this one.

Thanks for the replies. Yes, Raven I want to avoid using the Norton trial and get Avast on the new laptop before I go online. I re-downloaded Avast again, to a flashdrive using my XP machine. I was able to move it onto the Vista hard drive Downloads folder. But as before, it would not install. First window shows the default language - english. Next window - There was an error while completing the setup process. View setup log. I googled the main error line from the setup log, didn't find my exact problem, but found a few posts - all Avast related and also relating to various internet connections. So maybe once I get my wireless router hooked up tomorrow (cross fingers) this will install. I don't understand why that would matter, but what do I know! My XP computer is ATT DSL wired, which I am making wireless since I now have the laptop. That in itself is/will be a real learning experience. And I will definitely check out some of the tutorials. I think I will like Vista, just feeling a little inept at the moment.

I am having a HARD time of it!------I DL'ed about 4 times, each taking 5-6 hours to do so and still can't get an old version of what I want. zep516 (My Page) on Thu, Nov 14, 13 at 14:50 I'd do a manual up date, as in download them, that may solve the issue with Avast, Here is a link that might be useful: manual up date Avast When I went there and clicked on the Updates for Version 5-8 (middle row) it DL'ed Version 4.8.0.0. Isn't that a too old of a version? I then went to "filehippo" and clicked on different older versions from there and it always DL'ed the 2014 one I do NOT want as people are having a lot of trouble with it! I want 7.0.1474 as I am embarassed to say I have 6.0.1497 here on my windows XP and wanted to stay close just to get it working till I read up on a safe one to DL that does not cause a lot of problems. HELP! Also--------Does a person have to worry about the Removal Tool taking something off that may screw up my computer or does it only take what Avast put on in the first place and only avast? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------