Dark Picotee Triple Red grafted Adenium from Durham Botanical
dedward11 ( West Coast FL - zone 9b)
6 years ago
I ordered and received this grafted plant from Durham Botanical. I was very pleased with the plant I received, but I have a question. One of the FB groups I am in removed a post I made referencing the nursery I received this from. I inquired why, and was informed that Durham has a bad reputation for its business practices.
Has anyone had issues with them? I was thinking of ordering some additional plants (pluemrias), but don't want to get caught up in a bad situation.
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Carol love_the_yard (Zone 9A Jacksonville, FL)
6 years agodedward,
You may want to check out a Facebook group called "Rating Sellers of Plumeria, Adenium, Crown of Thorns, Hibiscus". I'm not sure my link will work so I'm also posting a screenshot. You may be able to garner more information there.
Another place to check is the Garden Watchdog on Dave's Garden, the gold standard for checking the ratings of mail-order gardening companies.
Hope that is helpful! Good luck!Carol in Jacksonville
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dedward11 ( West Coast FL - zone 9b)
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoCarol love_the_yard (Zone 9A Jacksonville, FL)
6 years agoDeborah, I know nothing about the seller nor the history. Two items discovered in research did cause me to raise an eyebrow. I'll leave to you to interpret:
Durham Botanicals Facebook Store has had a message saying, "The store is closed for maintenance" for awhile.
Durham Botanical's Sunbiz Florida corporate status is "Inactive".
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Good luck!
Carol
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