Sub Zero - Built In, or Integrated?
Jan Heginbotham
6 years ago
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Comments (15)When you can build in a standard depth refrigerator, what s the point of the expense of going to a built in that isn't that disguised to begin with? Sure, a fully integrated fridge is a HUGE visual difference, but a standard built it, not so much. Standard regular depth refrigerater "built in". It's not difficult to design your kitchen with extra deep counters or to recess a regular fridge to achieve this look. And you get a LOT more storage. Built in. (Doesn't fool anyone and costs a lot extra.) Fully integrated. The whole reason to pay for an upgraded "invisible" fridge. It's playing hide and seek and removes itself from the appliance category into the furniture one. (It's the mirrored cabinet, fully invisible.) (The "armoire" is the fridge.)...See MoreKenmore Pro or SubZero Built-in 48
Comments (0)I am looking to get a 48" built-in SBS refrigerator/freezer with a door dispenser (little kids serve themselves). It looks as though there is a Kenmore Pro model that has the duo compressor/duo coil setup as does the SubZero. Anyone know about these or have recommendations? I looked at the Miele, but it's over $10K and mainly the benefit seems to be the ability to not keep them SBS, which we will do anyway. GE Profile has a duo coil option with a single compressor...as useful? I'd love advice on this purchase. Thanks!...See MoreRefrigerator Built-in; Sub Zero, Jenn Air or Monogram?
Comments (8)We've had such a good experience with our Sub Zeros that we just ordered the 42" French door Sub Zero for the kitchen at our next home. Currently I have a 36" all Refrigerator and a 36" all Freezer. They are now 29 years old and going strong. We did have some of the typical problems in the early years - my ice maker worked fine, but every now and then I had ice build up in the back. Since it was out of warranty I used a hair dryer to melt the ice but that got annoying. When I called my local repair company they called Sub Zero from my house and discussed the problem. Sub Zero offered to cover the part and I paid for labor. It's now worked fine for over 20 years. The compressor only had a 5 year warranty when I bought the freezer in 1988. And of course it died in year 7 - again my local repair guy called SZ - and again they covered the parts while I paid labor. My impatient 10 year old son tried to force the freezer door open after it had just shut - anyone who knows SZ knows that when you close it, you have to wait a few seconds for the pressure to equalize before opening it again. Well he managed to break the metal handle. I called SZ and after the customer service rep laughed he asked if I had been entertaining a frat party at my home. I told him it was my 10 year old and that I had witnessed it. He immediately told me he'd send me a new handle - no charge. Well this same kid (who is now an impatient adult) managed to break off the handle on the refrigerator a year later. Again I called SZ - however by this time they had changed the style of the handle. The customer service rep not only send me a new handle for free - he also sent a new one for the freezer so that I would have matching handles. Their customer service has been fantastic. That's the reason we ordered another one from them. I know I'm going to miss my 301 R and 301 F when we move . We're empty nesters and down sizing and I don't need or even have room for those big units - but DH and I both love to cook and we often make large casseroles and freeze meals for our kids. The 42" should work fine for us....See MoreNeed guidance: panel ready SubZero Built-in overlay (flush) design
Comments (24)sageviews... short answer is I have no idea. Longer answer: I'm not familiar with Kitchenaid built-in models, so I can't say for sure, but... It's not so much the depth with a built-in, or the space you allow beside it, as it is the hinges on the refrigerator door. While you could leave a 1/2" clearance all the way around (and please don't let anyone tell you that looks bad, many current refrigerators require that space, and lots of people have them and it sure doesn't bother them) - your doors may still jut out a bit. Depending where you live and your personal tastes, this might be perfectly fine, or it might not suit you. Sub Zero realized a while back that integrated (flush with cabinetry) was becoming popular, so their built-ins, which are not true integrated, had hinges that operated in such a way that the door does not need to extend beyond the cabinetry beside it to open completely. Thus, if someone had the depth and space, they could install the SZ built-ins very similar to an integrated... flush with the cabinetry. I don't think Kitchenaid did this with their built-in hinges. You'd really have to go look at them, and inquire. The easiest way to tell is to take a piece of flat wood (a 1 x 8 or a small piece of plywood - or even a stiff notepad), hold it just beside the door - flush, and open the door the way. Does it hit the wood? If yes, you can't flush install. Is that horrible? If one really wants panels but can't find integrated or it's beyond the remodel budget, no, I don't think so. Just my opinion. It's kind of hard for me to explain the difference in hinges, but the SZ's allow the door to open in place, it does not need side-room. I can't tell by looking at Kitchenaide's site, but I'm pretty sure they require a non-flush install. Basically, the difference is this: SZ built in flush inset: kitchenaide built in flush inset: Hope whatever you decide, you are happy with it : )...See MoreJan Heginbotham
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