Corn meal vs cracked corn... any difference?
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Comments (5)I've used it, and would use it again. I will confess that it was attractive to birds, however. If I were planning on spreading it this year, I think I'd try to do it right before it was forecast to rain for a few days (in the hopes that it'd start breaking down before the birds noticed it). I agree that corn meal would be better (break down faster, less likely to be attractive to birds, perhaps some antifungal benefits too). But - frankly - I sometimes feel like I barely have time to do the things I need to do, and phoning mills wouldn't manage to make it to the top of my list (wouldn't the mills be close to places where corn is GROWN, not necessarily near where it is USED? I'm skeptical at the idea that most of us have one nearby, but I could be wrong). I like alfalfa meal best ... just like the smell of it, and of course the birds take no interest. But - whatever you can get easily is the ticket. - Lisa...See Morecorn gluten meal vs corn meal
Comments (18)Mistina, what are you hoping to accomplish with this mixture? What is it supposed to do? The problem with many of these so called 'natural' or organic home remedies is that they really don't do anything despite being touted for all sorts of magical properties. Corn meal - or even corn gluten meal - really doesn't have significant herbicidal or fungicidal properties. Scientific testing to support any consistent herbicidal properties have not been able tosuccessfully duplicate the results generated by Iowa State University that caused all the hoopla to begin with. And the fungicidal properties simply do not exist. But since CGM is nearly pure protein, it's not at all a bad organic fertilizer (if you overlook the consideration that most feeder corn grown in the US is GMO'd). And Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) provides absolutely NO benefit to the garden unless you have a magnesium deficiency in your soil. If you want to use any of these or similar organic home remedies for weed control or pest or disease suppression, do some research first before you spend money purchasing these products needlessly. There are numerous websites outlining any scientific testing or investigation into the alleged beneficial properties these products may or may not possess. Look in particular for scientific papers or websites with the .edu suffix. Finally, purchasing food grade equivalents of these products at a grocery store will always be more expensive than buying in bulk from a feed lot source....See MoreCorn Meal same as Corn Gluten Meal?
Comments (6)No they are NOT the same. Straight corn meal is used to eliminate fungal problems primarilly in bodies of water and in aquaculture/fish farming. This was first worked on at Texas A&M. Corn gluten meal is the by product of the wet processing of corn to produce corn syrup and corn oil. CGM has been used as cattle feed for decades. However, the University of Iowa discovered that CGM could be used to control the germination of annual weed seeds if applied at the correct time and under prime conditions. It does nothing to prennial weeds except to fertilize them. Since CGM is about 65% protein, it also performs as a decent fertilizer with an analysis of 9-0-0. Straight corn meal has some benefit in controlling some types of fungal problems in lawns. It has no effect in treating take all root rot in St. Augustine lawns....See MoreWill any corn gluten meal do?
Comments (6)There's no difference. Here's a quote from the patent. Corn gluten meal is a commercially available material extracted from corn meal. It is commercially available from many sources such as Grain Processing Corporation of Muscatine, Iowa, 52761. Generally, as those skilled in the art know, corn gluten meal is made by drying the liquid gluten stream separated from corn during corn wet milling processing. While its composition can vary, it commonly contains about 60% protein and is rich in xanthophills. It is a mixture of protein, lipid, carbohydrate and ash material. While corn gluten meal is known, and has been commercially available, in the past its primary usage has been as a feed substance for use with broilers, etc. It is important to note in accordance with the present invention that the material applied as a preemergence herbicide is corn gluten meal, not corn meal. Corn gluten meal, as earlier stated, differs considerably from corn meal in that it is extracted material made by drying the liquid gluten stream separated from corn during the corn wet milling processing. Thus, it represents a fortified material in comparison with corn meal. Corn meal itself has been tried as a preemergence herbicide for use in the present invention. Corn meal is somewhat effective, but corn gluten meal is much more effective. It is not known precisely why corn gluten meal functions effectively as a natural preemergence herbicide. While applicant does not wish to be bound by any theory, based upon investigations to date, it is believed that the corn gluten meal when applied to a soil plot, selectively stops root development of annual grassy weeds almost precisely at the time of germination. As a result, as soon as the plant begins to grow, it will undergo root stress and die. Thus, for some unknown reason, while the corn gluten meal does not prohibit germination, it nevertheless does not allow the root structure to develop sufficient that the weed can grow to a healthy plant. As a result, it dies from the lack of root growth. It is possible that some as of yet unidentified allelopathic compound is present in the corn gluten meal. If this be the case, it may also be possible to isolate the compound, and use it in a highly fortified manner. Alternatively, such a compound could be chemically synthesized and used or perhaps even produced biotechnically by bacterial substances. There is a later patent where they mixed CGM with citric acid and/or with ammonium sulfate (another acid when moist) to increase the effectiveness. Both of those are chemical compounds yet Dr Christians refers to this as a "natural product." You can patent anything including this. Organic lawn treatment and fertilization program US 6264714 B1 Abstract A method of treating and fertilizing a lawn comprising separate applications of corn gluten, 100% poultry manure organic lawn/plant fertilizer and milky spore organic soil conditioner in controlled amounts at specific times over a three year period, the times being early spring, late spring/early summer, mid to late summer and late fall or about 50 to 60 days apart commencing in early spring while forsythia is blooming but before lilacs bloom. So if any of you are doing those things to your lawn, you should be paying royalties to the patent owner. That seems pretty crazy to me....See MoreUser
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