Apple Cider Vinegar & Raw Honey
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AVC - Apple Cider Vinegar for migraines or weight loss
Comments (23)>> "No form of vinegar changes body pH or has any effect on toxins. The body's natural processes, mediated largely through the liver and kidneys, eliminate waste products and toxic substances." It's as if you are still rejecting the efficacy of Cinchona bark for treating malaria because the Amazonian Indians haven't discovered the formula for the quinine it contains. Instead, they say that the bark of the Cinchona tree contains the spirit of the God Xohopichulato, which destroys the evil spirit that causes malaria. If you want to rest in your beliefs that there is no Xohopichulato and therefore Cinchona cannot help with malaria, fine. Just don't pretend it is science. It is arrogant ethnocentrism, not scientific empiricism. Your arguments are based on an arbitrary and artificial definition of the word 'toxin'. You are ignoring the fact that ordinary substances can build up to toxic levels under many conditions - for example, glucose can build up to toxic levels when there is insulin resistance. In such a case, anything that reduces insulin resistance or lowers glucose levels would in fact be a 'detoxification' process. Likewise, immune hormones like the interferons and interleukins are necessary under certain conditions, but at higher doses (ie when there is infection or chronic inflammation) they often cause side effects that range from unpleasant to lethal. In SARS, H5N1 bird flu, and other killer influenzas, the body's immune system destroys the body. Immune hormones that might sometimes be beneficial are produced at toxic levels. This is quite different from your idea of metabolic toxins that are normally handled by the kidneys and liver. The short chain fatty acids present in vinegar (acetate, proprionate, butyrate) have been repeatedly shown to lower inflammatory cytokines (which have been implicated as a contributor to migraines). These simple compounds also affect levels of leptin, adiponectin and other compounds that regulate glucose, and there is research implicating this in the pathogenesis of migraines. You have stooped to pseudoscience by refusing to look at the evidence that vinegar can dramatically change certain chemicals in the body. You seem to take comfort in linguistic tautologies about 'toxins' that have little bearing on the underlying facts of the matter. Here is a link that might be useful: Glucose, Adiponectin, Immune Hormones and Migraine....See MoreCider Vinegar for weight loss?
Comments (150)Just a bit of food for thought, the drug companies that are trying to get a "new" drug approved by the FDA are the same drug companies that are PAYING for that testing process. Quite frankly, I don't trust any of them. Plants were created for a purpose, many of them do have healing properties that those drug companies some people put so much stock in would go to any lengths to keep people from learning about or believing in. Tell me, what would happen if the world was to find out that ACV could help with Acid Reflux and/or chronic indigestion? *Grins* Exactly. They'd stop buying "the purple pill" and start buying ACV. Personally, I trust the products that God made before I'd trust those which are man made. ACV is made from apples. The "mother" mentioned in this thread are simply vital nutrients and minerals our bodies benefit from which are lost in the pasteurization process of the "grocery store" brands. ACV is acidic by nature, but when your body burns it, the ash created by the process of converting it to calories is "Base" in nature, which balances out the body's Ph. There ARE health benefits of ACV, many. But you'll never see a "clinical trial" of ACV. Why? Well think about it. Who pays the bills in a clinical trial? What drug company would want it proven clinically that ACV does the same thing as their "wonder pill?" Not to mention many prescription drugs are based after that which occurs naturally in nature. Personally, I have taken ACV for over 3 years now. I have gone from a jean size 24 to a jean size 8. But you must remember that no "weight loss" product, no exercise, nothing works overnight. It is a gradual process. My advice? If you're going to try ACV, then make a commitment to stay on it for at least 3 months. That's how long it took before I began to see results. The first thing I noticed was that my craving for junk food began to wane. I began to crave healthy food. I began to drink more water, I began to get full faster. I had more energy, I felt better. But I've also not been sick in 3 years. I've had kids with bad colds standing over me while I'm kneeling down at work and coughing right in my face, and not gotten sick. No stuffy noses, no sore throats, no flu. The only time I had a problem was when I stopped taking it for a few months. I didn't realize how much ACV doing for me until then. I was miserable, I just felt like crap. And within that 2 month time frame, I gradually began to go back to eating junk. Within a few weeks of going back on ACV, I felt much, much better. Most of the weight loss I experienced occurred during the first 6 months, mainly during a 2-3 month time frame. Within a few months, I'd noticed that my clothes were a bit big. 6 months after beginning, I went up and tried on clothes to find that I was a size 10. Concerned that there might be another reason for my weight loss I went to the doctor, and was told that I was in perfect......See MoreHave I just made vinegar instead of cider?
Comments (30)Since you are aiming for a sparkling cider, and you still have Live yeast and sugar left in the cider -- it will keep fermenting.... and it will keep generating PRESSURE! DO NOT BOTTLE INTO ANY JARS THAT AREN'T MADE TO HOLD PRESSURE! THEY WILL EXPLODE! This is especially true if you try to pasteurize it.... Mason Jars are a No-No.. Wine bottles are a No-No... Miscellaneous glass bottles are a No-No... None of these are made to hold the sort of pressure the yeast will generate and they will explode... and they will shower you with sharp glass! You need to use either Beer bottles or Champagne bottles if you want to bottle a "Sparkling" beverage for long term storage.... Plastic soda bottles work quite well for short term storage. On the alcohol question - you got alcohol the 1st time it fermented.... Most fruit stand cider will ferment out to about 6% alcohol without any help from you... If it goes right, it won't have a sharp alcohol flavor.... but it's in there... Unfortunately, as you get closer and closer to the alcohol tolerance of your yeast by adding more and more sugar - it will start to generate weird, off flavors that taste like paint thinner, nail polish remover, and rocket fuel.... These are called "Fusel alcohols" because they generally taste "Hot".... Once you start generating this stuff -- there is nothing you can do but to let it age for a long time to mellow out. My advice - stop while you are ahead. Don't add any more sugar. If you want it a bit sweet - put it in the fridge to slow down fermentation and then siphon off the clear liquid off the muck in the bottom. Then, put it back in the fridge till you drink it. Don't be greedy here... Yeast doesn't taste particularly good.... Most sweet ciders and especially those fermented on their wild yeasts are best when they are young... Drink and enjoy. Thanks...See MoreCider Vinegar question
Comments (6)Yuck! I'd take it back too. Since most of us do canning because we like the flavor of real food, using the best quality ingredients produces the best flavor, and "colored" vinegar isn't at all the same! I can't believe the "cost cutting" food manufacturers do these days. I was just at our state fair, and they were giving away "Crustables" samples (pre-made sandwiches without crusts, for kids) One flavor was peanut butter and honey, and I checked the ingredients. The "honey" was actually mostly corn syrup, with honey flavoring. When I asked them why there was corn syrup in it at all, they told me that it made the honey more "spreadable" when they were making the product. (You know, because honey is so difficult to spread in its pure form!) I am allergic to corn syrup, and so I passed on that free sample... Carla in Sac...See MoreElmer J Fudd
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