New Large Raised Bed - Please help me plan it (Zone 5B)
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please help me figure out the best raised bed layout for my yard
Comments (6)I few more details on the plans that I posted above: The raised beds along the fence would be completely separate from the fence, I'm not talking about heaping dirt against the fence or anything like that lol! Just building raised beds 2' wide and placing them against the fence so I can grow vertically as much as possible. I have a 50' roll of black vinyl coated chain link fencing (part of it is used to enclose the current garden) and I plan to repurpose it by hanging it along the back fence so I can trellis peas, beans, tomatoes, melons, whatever. I have been reading that growing vertically is one way to get more out of a small space. Since I have two medium sized dogs and I have learned the hard way that regular garden fencing or poultry wire isn't really sturdy enough, I was planning to buy some hog panels, have them cut in half, and have those go along the front of the beds to keep everything out. Hog panels are 34" tall and the bars are close together at the bottom and gradually get further apart as they go up. Each half would weigh about 17 pounds, so I can lift a section off as needed to tend the garden, then put it back up when I'm done. The design I came up with has a 4' tall 4'x4' fence post between each bed, about 2' feet out from the existing fence posts. The end pieces of each raised bed will be screwed into it, and once the 1' tall beds are filled with dirt, it should be plenty sturdy enough to support these panels. I also intend to have a piece of 2"x4" going between each of these posts and the actual fence posts to lend greater stability to both, and that will be the only thing that connects the raised beds to the fence. I thought it would be best to keep them totally separate to allow the fence to be worked on or even replaced later if needed, without having to remove the beds. The center beds would need a different setup for keeping out the dogs and rabbits. I had in mind some kind of enclosure that goes around the perimeter, with a gate at the opening. Most likely I would use the same hog panel idea so I could access the beds from the outside or the inside, or I could opt to leave part of it in place and use it for a trellis. I have thought about even enclosing the whole thing with heavy plastic to create a greenhouse for winter, and I could also use it to suspend shade cloth since the sun is a bit too much here in Oklahoma in the summer and it actually gets hot enough that the tomatoes stop setting fruit. The only thing I don't like about this idea is that it is right in the middle of the yard (actually, two of them, one on each side) though the dogs would have a blast running around them. Aesthetically, I think the perimeter beds along the fence would be more attractive and open, even with the smaller island beds added. I would probably put just low covers on those and use those beds for low growing crops since I would have plenty of space to trellis the taller crops along the fence. Thank you for considering my ideas and if you have any feedback or suggestions for me, please let me know! Here is a link that might be useful:...See MoreNew to Gardening, help me plan please!
Comments (3)Well you have what it takes, a sense of humor! I was expecting to see feral pigs as the pests, haha the doggies! that was funny too! You should start a blog or at least keep a journal. I keep a journal. Your writing is enjoyable. I am definitely a frugal person (cheap), well that is how I got to be debt-free, right? and I love finding bargains at the clearance at Lowe's and elsewhere. Since you don't know the blueberry variety prolly you need to pick up *2* other varieties that will pollinate each other, and hopefully one of them will also pollinate your original. Plant them in a little grouping. I used to have a lemon tree when I lived southeast of New Orleans and I supplied the neighborhood with lemons for tea and lemonade! and for cooking (seafood!). You should start a compost pile or compost bin somewhere near your veggies and that will help you improve your soil over time. Your raised beds will need a good bit of organic matter, if you buy it bagged buy humus, compost or composted manure. You guys can build some trellises or "tuteurs" out of old materials or cheap lattice, or old broomsticks for the tuteurs, and that could be placed around the garden area as the fencing. One suggestion which I have learned by reading lots and lots and trial and error: Plant your plants in groupings, for example, instead of the line of pansies, put them in a good grouping nearer the entry to the house, makes a bigger color impact and welcome to your home. We love Florida, my daughter is getting married on the beach there in October!...See MoreHelp me place Veggies in my new raised bed please :-)
Comments (11)@daninthedirt, 8" is just the good stuff above the hardware cloth. Under that is decomposed granite AKA mostly sand with a little dirt. Hubs did dig down pretty far and tossed the soil around, but he didn't amend it. Nothing was growing there before, so it should have some nutrients.. The big worry is gophers. We do our best to control them, but it's an endless battle. There is no rock underneath. Decomposed Granite. The gophers have an easy life digging through sandish stuff. We do have lots of huge boulders on this property, but in this particular spot there are none. I am a huge fan of root pruning pots cuz I've seen the results with and without them. Air pruning a root is like pruning a branch. New branches appear. Same with roots. Nothing circles, just all the roots use every bit of dirt they can. It's a beautiful thing to see. If a gopher feels the need to nibble under the hardware cloth, the roots will just put out feeders. Pretty sure it will work. I'll be dosing with fertilizer often....See MoreAdvice on soil amendments for new shade bed in Zone 5B
Comments (3)Yes, what you have been told is completely accurate!! Rhododendron is the state flower of WA state - they grow wild here - and virtually every single garden has a selection of them and various other acid loving, ericaceous plants (a great many of which are natives). This is also a large commercial growing area. Soils here are naturally only slightly to moderately acidic (6.0-6.5 with most falling about midway). These plants thrive in our soils and in our climate. It sounds like your area is already in good shape to plant these selections. However, planting within the root zone of any large tree can pose issues with moisture availability and sometimes nutrients as well, so they may need a little TLC until properly established. As to fertilizing, it is not recommended to fertilize at the time of planting. First, the plants have already received a dose of what they need from the grower and the process of planting creates stresses that make absorption of soil nutrients difficult so providing more only adds to the stress. And never add fert to a planting hole!! Most ericaceious plants are not heavy feeders anyway and require very little fertilizer typically. I would wait until next spring before adding more. And the Holly Tone or any other fertilizer recommended for acid loving plants will work fine. They all contain acidifying agents to help keep the soil at an appropriate pH level and to facilitate with nutrient uptake....See Moreoldbat2be
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