Building Cost - Market question GA vs. NC
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Ballpark cost to build in coastal NC (not OBX)
Comments (16)mdfacc - I doubt you could 5 competent contractors (let alone 5 contractors) to bid in the OPs neck of the woods... Install is typically like $2500. Cabinets are all over the place. I hate linear feet (it is just like cost per sq foot). A 2 door cabinet that is 36in will not cost $1200 but a 36 inch cabinet with 6 drawers might. You really need upper length and lower length, number of drawers, and on an on. 3 12in cabs is much more expensive than 36in cabs which also complicates the linear foot pricing. As you become more knowledgable, you learn what you like and how expensive it all is. Some typical upcharges - glazing 10%, painted cabs - 10%. Oh you like painted and glazed - 20% so your $400 a linear foot has become $480. A basic plywood 24 inch box with basic doors might cost $500 (or $250 a linear foot). But change it to FE/soft close drawers with dovetailed wood boxes, make it drawers instead of cabinets, paint, glaze and a more complicated door and you could easily be at $1200 for the same 2 feet from the same manufacturer. I've seen even higher end places strip the cabinets to get a decent linear foot price and you get what you pay for.... BTW - turns out my cabinet manufacturer went out of business so maybe it wasn't such a good deal since I will probably have to custom make any replacement doors.... My take home is that you can easily get by with $10k but you might be at $15k without trying very hard. $8k in appliances is a decent budget for what you are shooting for. I think the best bet with a builder is to negotiate a fixed profit amount and have final say on all contractors. Rebid anything you don't like - or come one here and see if we think it is reasonable. I can always send you some subs from Raleigh if your bids are outrageous... This model does require that you trust your GC not to rip you off with kickbacks. I think going from $125 a sq foot to $115 is a big chunk out of a GC's profits. I can't remember what your build size was but let's say for the sake of argument that he can build at $110. So at $125, he makes a decent amount, do you really think he'll be happy (or adequately compensated) at $115. You are not cutting 10%, you are cutting 66%....See MoreTwo Cost questions: Building Plans, & 1 Level vs. 2 Level Homes:
Comments (17)Thanks for the compliment on the hardwood. It's actually bamboo. It's the Java Fossilized bamboo from Calibamboo. I think I'm there first residential install on the east coast. This stuff is absolutely gorgeous and I love it so much so far. We've been in the house a few weeks, just haven't had a chance to update the pics. I can tell you, whatever you decide to go with will be the right thing for your family. Facing the disability with my husband, and having it be very real and in our face forced us to look at some very real issues. We have a 12yo daughter. It spurred us to decided to go 100% handicapped accessible. My husband couldn't stand the thought of a future time when my daughter might need him in some part of the house, and he couldn't get there to help her. The idea of her sick with fever throwing up in the only non-wc accessible bathroom as he sat in the chair outside trying to comfort her...or having a nightmare as he tried to make corners to get to her bedroom. We knew that at age 12 there wouldn't be too many more of those times, but grandchildren will come one day.... He couldn't live with those thoughts... so we made the whole house accessible. Today a paraplegic could move into our house with access to all but the basement, and we are 100% ready to pop in the elevator as the shaft is prebuilt. However, if he did not have MS...and we only had our minor mobility issues and those of guests to think of...our decision might have been totally different. My inlaws built 100 feet from us on the same 17acres. They both have serious mobility issues. They lowered the switches, raised the toilets, raised the outlets and made the master wc accessible. The other bedrooms and second bath however are not accessible at all. At their age, and with their only surviving child and grandchild living next door...the money just wasn't justified. My grandparents, both just shy of 90 on the other hand are living quite happily in their 2 story home. Nana is blind, Grampa has COPD and a heart condition and needs oxygen frequently. They both can still walk, if a bit unsteadily and refuse any changes. On bad days Grampa sleeps on the sofa downstairs instead of heading up. I just wanted to give you a bit of generational prospective from my family....thought it might help. Laney Here is a link that might be useful: Calibamboo for flooring...See MoreNatural Gas vs Propane vs Geothermal
Comments (10)keadog Based on your options, GT should be in the trade space. It sounds like you are in a rural area. We built in a rural area in 2007 and have a Gt system - propane was our only other option (we only use that for cooking and tankless hot water). Here are some lessons learned from my expereience: 1) Make sure you factor in the cost to run the electrical service to your home AND make sure you get enough amperage. The GT heat pumps need quite a bit of current on start up - my 5 ton heat pump requires a 70 amp circuit and my 3 ton heat pumps require 30 amps. Once the heat pumps start they draw less current - but you still need to factor the start up load into the overall needs for the house. The added cost for additional amperage is relatievly cheap when they install - but very expensive to add later. Based on your house size I would reocmmend a 400 amp service if you go with GT. 2) If you do chose GT, I strongly recommend a propane auxilliary heater instead of the electical heat packs. Have the system wired so that a small backup generator can power the thermostats, the HVAC fan, and the propane heater ingition. That way, when the power goes out you can still have heat. An alternative is to install a larger backup generator that can drive your GT heat pump and loop but that might not be cost effective. Either way - make sure you factor in a backup heating system into your plans. 3) Make sure that the company who is doing the GT system has been in the business for many years AND is available to provide service. These systems have to be designed properly and must be tailored to your specific site and house design. They are expensive and you need to have it done right AND have a reliable company that can service it when needed. If you can't find a highly rated local company to install and maintain the system then I would not recommend GT. 4) Make sure you factor in the building envelope: windows, doors, sealing and insulation into the overall HVAC design. If the envelope isn't tightly sealed and insulated well you won't be happy with a GT system. 5) Do your own research on the Heat pump manufacturers - use this site to ask the experts on the proposed equipment. Make sure it is a quality product. 6) Ask the HVAC contractor what type of monitoring system they provide so that you know that the system is working as efficiently as designed. Mine had nothing and I had to add indicators such as pressure and temperature guages over time. Goodluck with the build....See MoreSeattle- Heat Pump/Gas Furnace vs AC/Gas Furnace
Comments (13)You should definitely be pricing with just heat pump. I live in NC which probably is a bit colder in the winter. We get down to the teens but only 15 nights a year maybe. Our winter average low is about 30. Under 10 degrees is definitely a news story. I have 5000 sq ft. I'm looking at my NG bill of $30. I have dual fuel and seer 16 heat pumps. Last winter was very cold and I spent about $700 with $200 being gas. This winter is going to be $120 in gas. My electric rates are similar to yours without the first 1000 discount. What is my point? Your gas usage will likely be $100 a year. Even if that were replaced with all heating strips, you'd be saving $200 a year or so. Since it would probable be 80% heat pump still, the dual fuel is only saving you $40 a year. So a $2500 furnace to save $40 a year seems a little crazy (on dollars alone). Turns out for me, it is probably worth it but only marginally so. I have a 90% (which you should be able to do as mine is basement with horizontal PVC exhaust). It probably saves $60-$70 on an average year. Probably cost $2000 (new house - I can't remember). What is that a 30 year payback (or never if you count interest or NG rates increase)? You do get some flexibility and you can setback at will with dual fuel. That is worth something....See Morejpniner
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