Thank you, Jill! Kim

Thank you so much for sharing your walk thru the garden. I really enjoyed it!

Jill, thank you so much for your reply. That "Keith's B-N" is one beautiful little rose. I didn't find it on HMF--will it appear there? I assume it is not available at all (yet)? I can only imagine what it must feel like to discover an unknown old rose--and such a lovely, fragrant one, wow. I was very taken with General Schablikine, so #3 is probably him. I wasn't really intending to take photos, and I normally would have been more careful about snapping pix of the IDs, but I was so overwhelmed by the roses, also the heat!, and I just kept drifting around, often in circles, just drawn to the next beauty that caught my eye. There were some roses that I ended up visiting numerous times, zigzagging around the garden. I look forward to another visit and can't wait to see the spring bloom next year. Sheba

Hi Virginia, red pistils and red stamen are as common in roses as blue or brown eyes are in people. Meaning they are not rare. They happen. You can tell what colors are possible in a cross with a rose by what colors occur in the entire plant. A yellow with yellow stamen and pistils or white ones, is "unstained" and will breed a pure yellow, an "unstained yellow". If you want to stabilize a purple, you can cross it with a strong yellow and it will enhance the purple. If there is red anywhere in the yellow flowered plant (including foliage, prickles, stamen, etc.), the purple can be "stained" with red. Think Paradise and Angel Farce. If there is no red in the yellow, there should be no red in the purple cross. But, the red occurs all the time and sometimes appears out of seemingly no where. Now, we saw Coulterville Yellow today at the Heritage. Susan (poorbutroserich), Jill and I scoured the plant. Here are photos. Notice this weird trait. Three leaves on new growth and it's virtually prickle-free. Now, lookie here! "Cl. Yellow Blaze", which is Climbing Sunflare. It has similar foliage, similar blooms, the same three leaflet new growth that "morphs" into the usual five with age, and it has prickles. So, this must be "Cl. Yellow Blaze" with some mutation, perhaps Round Up? I dunno, but it shouldn't "rare". Yes, I edited this to change from my mis typed identification to Cl Sunflare. I had originally typed Cl Gold Badge. Sorry about that.