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Light pink Austin that blooms more than Sharifa Asma???

C.j. Kammerzell Peets

7 years ago

I've had Sharifa Asma for several years but she barely blooms more than once a season. Are there any other light pink Austins that bloom more with similar qualities?

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pat_bamaz7

7 years ago

Scepter'd Isle is almost continuously blooming for me. Doesn't mind the heat at all...in a difficult place with early morning shade, but full sun the rest of the day with a metal shed behind it reflecting heat, as well. Nice full blooms in spring and fall, but lower petal count in summer. I've never grown SA, so can't compare fragrance, but my SI has a nice strong scent that will waft somewhat. It does blackspot here in my high humidity, though, unless sprayed. Wants to be a big shrub...I hard prune mine to keep it to around 5 X 5

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Sarah z8
7 years ago
What zone are you in?
C.j. Kammerzell Peets
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7 years ago
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Thank you all so much for your input. Krista, You have helped me a great deal in my selections, thank you so much. Do you have any thoughts on how large Eglantyne might get in my harsh, Midwest zone 4? I'm guessing it won't be as large as yours, and in this particular case, that might be a good thing. Ingrid, I have wanted PJ for a long time. Sadly, (this is embarassing to admit)I got one last Spring and accidentally killed it. I think, from pictures, that PJ is a must have, but I'm wondering if there would be enough contrast between the 3. Sven, at times, is almost the same color as William, and at other times lighter, so I'm looking for a rose that will contrast with William and a lighter Mauve. Would you say that PJ is as light as Sharifa Asma, or I guess, pale enough to contrast with a lighter mauve? ilovemyroses, Sceptre d'Isle is very pretty. I wonder how large it would get in zone 4. I got Sven at a local nursery. I kind of doubt they ship, but you never know. Their name is Nelson's Nursery. I will look up their # for you tomorrow, or ask them myself if they would ship. Carol, Brother Cadfael is another one I've been longing for. They don't have it at the particular place I'm ordering from, but they do have it at a relatively local place, so I'm hopeful I might make a short road trip and pick one up this year. Hoovb, The space I'm putting them in is not too big. Some would probably say too small to fit another rose, but like you said, they just aren't getting very large here. It's really hard to judge how large everything will get in my zone. Dublinbay, I'm hoping Shakespeare will be a bit taller than the others. He hasn't grown very much, though. I keep hoping this year will be his year. I really think, from pic.s that Gentle Hermione, would be a good alternative to Sharifa. I don't know how hardy this one is. I never go by smell, not that I don't love the smell of roses, but I have come to the conclusion that, the stronger the fragrance, the more the rose chafers and other beetles come. So, maybe if the smell is unappealing to people, it will be unappealing to the beetles. Thank you for the help. Any other ideas would be appreciated. The clock is ticking for my order, though. Kitty
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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9
7 years ago
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Pretty Jessica is one that blooms pretty much constantly for me. She is not bicolored however and is a solid pink. Princess Alexandra of Kent does the same but she gets very big and is more of a medium pink than light.

Austins don't usually continuously bloom for me and I would suggest a different breeder. Candice is also pretty much in bloom for me but she is a bicolor stripey rose that is gorgeous.

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summersrhythm_z6a
7 years ago
Heritage is a blooming machine. I have 41 of them, they are my landscaping roses just like KOs.
SoFL Rose z10
7 years ago
Scepter D'isle is a profuse bloomer for me in zone 10. She doesnt have a heavy petal count, or a nice a fragrance as SA but she blooms a lot.
C.j. Kammerzell Peets
Original Author
7 years ago
Thank you for the input. It really helps and the photos are great. I've had Heritage but couldn't deal with how it would shatter in one day. . .I haven't seen Candace, even in the David Austin catalog. . .Scepter D'Isle is a possibility. Mostly, I want to get a full 2 bloom cycles in one season. . .this past season I only got one from Sharifa. . .
Sarah z8
7 years ago
Off topic- Pat, would you mind if I use one of your photos for my wallpaper? It's beautiful! If not, it's okay and I would understand completely.
pat_bamaz7
7 years ago
Sarah, I don't mind at all. I just take pictures of the roses on my phone while wandering around the yard. Thanks for asking!
lavenderlacezone8
7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago
Gorgeous photos, pat and musb!!!!!

I use Heritage like summersrythm as a landscaping rose because of all the blooms. I did give up on her for the vase though because she shatters so quickly, better on the bush.

If you end up going to a different breeder, Kordes First Crush is doing well here in Z8 and is a light pink, prettier than the pictures which look somewhat washed out. Earth Angel kind of looks like an Austin also.
summersrhythm_z6a
7 years ago
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I missed my 2 Scepter'd Isle, the cold winter took both of them. I am getting one in the spring. Love your Scepter'd Isle photos Pat!! :-)

Heritage can stay on the rose bushes for a few days, for vase I cut them early before they open. They stay a little bit longer in my garden may be because it's not so hot here in zone 6a......

Earth Angel, First Crush look so beautiful, they're must have roses. :-) I got 1 First Crush last year, this spring will pick up 1 Earth Angel from Palatine.

What about Nahema??
lavenderlacezone8
7 years ago
Summers, EA is getting quite a bit taller here than FC in case that's a consideration. I've seen gorgeous pictures of Nahema on this site!
summersrhythm_z6a
7 years ago
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Lavenderlace, That's nice to know EA is taller than FC. I have 1 Nahema from Ludwigs growing in a pot, getting another one from Palatine in the spring, will plant this one in the garden, not sure if it can take a cold here, but have to give it a try. :-)
lorrihz
7 years ago
And...here is a photo of the above mentioned SDLM from last summer
lorrihz
7 years ago
er...or the below mentioned....my post did not go through.....even though I know you are looking for an austin...the best performing light pink I have in the heat of Las Vegas is SDLM
summersrhythm_z6a
7 years ago
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That's a beautiful SDLM! Is that a grafted or own root? A SDLlM bush? How big is that one? I planted 2 own root SDLM (bush) under 2 Dreamland climbers last summer, they are still small. If they grow up like yours, oh boy, they are going to eat the Dreamland. :-) I have 2 grafted SDLM cl coming from Palatine in April, I have to make sure to give them some space.
pat m
7 years ago
My Sharifa Asma blooms more than any other pink rose I have. Maybe you have a dud.
SoFL Rose z10
7 years ago
Yeah. I was going to say that my sharifa is a pretty good bloomer too, but all roses perform differently in different climates. So maybe she just doesn't like yours for some reason.
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
7 years ago
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My Sharifa is young but holding her own pretty well in the blooming dept. She also smells heavenly! The problem I have with her is that she fades quickly to white in the summer heat but she does keep blooming lol.

Abe Darby and Princess Alexandra of Kent are good bloomers in my garden. The fragrance on Abe is better than PAoK. PAoK is also a more medium pink whereas Abe is lighter and sometimes on the warm peachy side depending on his mood :) Abe is one of my all-time fav pink roses.

I have Olivia grafted and did well for her first year. She has really pretty blooms I can't say how great of a bloomer she is yet because she is so new in my garden but she is girly girly pink! Maybe someone else can give some insight into Olivia's performance?

Lovely pics you guys! I might just add a few more to my spring list lol.
SoFL Rose z10
7 years ago
My Olivia performed well it's first year. The only issue is she sent out many blind shoots. But she was very healthy and a good grower for me, which is a big deal where I live. I don't know if she'll be a more profuse bloomer for you, but overall I think she's an excellent rose. No fragrance though.
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
7 years ago
Thanks soflo rose! I was watering my Olivia this morning and noticed she has two 6ft long canes. I stuck her against a wire fence w Lady of Shallot temporarily until I can get her own spot set up and she is trying to climb up into LoS which is definitely a climber here. Now I am wondering just how large Olivia will get in FL and if I should just grow her as a climber as well..
SoFL Rose z10
7 years ago
Sultry is your LoS on its own roots, or on Dr.H or Fortuniana? I ordered one on its own roots this year from DA and they sent me a grafted one by accident (they are sending me a replacement one this week). I'm not sure if I'll like it enough to order it on Fortuniana yet, knowing it will take up a lot of room. I grew it once before and it didn't bloom much and the blooms were very small for me. But I only had it for about six months. I moved it into the ground then it started getting really large (still no blooms) and I realized it wasn't a good spot for such a large rose so I moved it again and it didn't survive the second move (poor thing, was all my fault!). Anyways, something tells me she'll do better in partial shade and maybe on her own roots so she doest get so large. I dunno. We'll see. If she does well for me I may get her on Fortuniana. I have two Pat Austins though, on Fort and they do really well and they are a similar color.
lavenderlacezone8
7 years ago
I was getting worried about a Sharifa that I bought in December after this thread. She now has buds in February but has not been exposed to temps lower than 33 in the pot. Hope she can take the heat!

C.J., do you think heat is what affected yours, or just that she wasn't a great bloomer overall? I'm not going to buy any more for a while until I see how summer goes.

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