The Prince and Sharifa Asma
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What Roses Are You Jaded With???
Comments (42)I'm jaded with most of the Austins right about now too. There are only 3 so far that seem worth their garden space. They are Pretty Jessica, the Prince, and Sharifa Asma. However, these 3 are still being evaluated, but so far, so good. The Dark lady is going to get the boot soon, when I get my shovel out, because she blackspots and defoliates as much as any disease prone hybrid tea without spray. I removed 56 Knockouts that I had mass planted all over the place. Don't get me wrong, I love bright colors BUT these were the most obnoxiously thorned things on earth. They grow like monsters. They shred heavy leather, and then your skin. What the heck did they breed these things from?! Maybe they are dainty cute little things in a cold climate, where winter keeps them in line. Knockouts are NOT disease and insect free. Resistant, yes, but certainly not immune. They WILL look terrible if you do not groom them, and I'm not talking about the deadheads. The foliage can look awful by August, if not kept groomed. Spider Mites love the things, and I was not about to water wand 56 bushes all the time. I won't spray anymore. I now hate Knockouts with a passion. Part of that feeling is how they are marketed to people as being totally work free. NO living thing is work free. The marketing hype is especially annoying. I am not putting anyone down who grows them, or truly likes Knockouts. I've seen some breathtaking pictures of them in some of your gardens. However, it is obvious they are getting some loving care from you. Hopefully no one will throw a brick at me. I'm going to duck anyway. Sandy...See Morenew to FL, need help with roses
Comments (10)Welcome to Florida! I believe that the prior posts here have covered a lot of what I consider common sense in growing roses in Florida. With that said, here are my two cents: Don't throw your money away with buying roses on anything other than roses grafted on Fortuniana. I have seen hundreds of dollars worth of roses from everything from Wal-Mart to Jackson and Perkins go down the trash can until I tried Fortuniana. I always bulked at buying Fort. roses because they cost twice to three times as much than other bargain variety roses, but once I noted the difference I kicked myself for ever wasting my money. Spraying is a must here in Florida, even with roses on Fortuniana (the difference is that even after losing all your leaves to BS the bush often comes back since it's roots don't die as well). I alternate between Banner Max (expensive at first but economical in the long run), Mancozeb/Dithane, the Ortho Products (smelly bu time proven), and the Bayer (I think this stuff makes my leaves turn yellow and fall off) spray products. Occationaly I use Messenger just for fun and pay close attention to any changes in plant growth or vigor (so far I can't determine if the growth I've noted has been due to Messenger or just plain old natural rain water). Picking the right variety for our location is a must. Some of the most impressive roses in my garden have been equally impressive in other gardens. Some include OGRs like the Cracker Rose while others include Belinda's Dream, Elina, Double Delight, Big Ben, and (of course) Knockouts. For some reason (disease suseptability in the genes maybe) purple roses don't fare well at all in our climate. Just the same I have a few that do okay like Melody Parfume and Fragrant Plum (Hot Princess does very well for me, but some on this forum would argue that she isn't purple). Lastly, remember that our growing season is year round and that we are the reverse of the rest of the country in so much that our best blooms come in the winter and our worst is during the grueling summer heat. When pruning I find that it is best to only cut back the dead growth and dead head whent he temps are in the mid 80s and up, as doing otherwise often shocks your rose bush and leaves you with a stick ghost of your rose bush's former self. On the topic of Oranges and Lemons: I'm currently growing this rose and it grows more like a climber than a pillar for me. I will say that it is very vigorous and prefers growing like a climber than like a Floribunda or HT. Again, welcome to Florida and good luck! Adrian....See MoreHAVE: Deep Secret/Maggie/Sharifa Asma/S. Chariot for B.Beauty/M.
Comments (5)Hi Patty, I couldn't wait and bought Buff Beauty while Heirloom Roses had it on sale, but I can still give you cuttings of Maggie. It's just that Maggie is first year in my yard and I haven't let it bloom yet, do you think a cutting with a bud formed is just as good? I never trade cuttings before so if you are interested, let me know how do I do it. I live in Dyker Heights. If you live nearby I might give you the whole plant, because now I want a fruit tree in that spot (sigh...too little space...) Thanks for your interest, Chi...See Moresharifa asma and lady emma H, heat tolerance
Comments (15)Hi Rekha, I'm zone 7b/8aish, but hot and humid in summer here, too. No 116 temps, but lots of upper 90s and a few lower 100s here and there with high humidity and a good amount of rain. I've never grown Sharifa, but do have LEH. She does blackspot, so I have her with some other Austin spotters on the side of our metal shed. That area gets early morning shade, but then full sun from around 11:00am to sunset (and reflected heat from the metal building. I don't recall how well she blooms during the heat of summer, but I do have pictures of her in hot months, so she must bloom some. She definitely doesn't die from heat here. These aren't great pictures, but thought you might find full bush shots useful: Here is a bloom shot from hot July...See More
boncrow66
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roseloverinsf
6 years agoI have both of them on own root. They are very fragrant. Short but I like them that way because they will permanently live in pots. In my foggy place, Sharifa Asma gets some powdery mildew and The Prince gets rust. Not too bad though. Deep Secret gets more rust compared to him. I hate spraying so I just remove the infected leaves. Very brutal you might say but I always think they will survive the ordeal.
These pictures were taken a few months after being transplanted. They started as gallon size.
The Prince
Sharifa Asma
Their present size is about the same and I didn't really prune this January.
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida)
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6 years agonanadollZ7 SWIdaho
6 years agoI was looking through some of my old photos of The Prince and came up with these two. Neither shows how blessed dark this rose can get. The camera just doesn't capture his coloring well. Diane
The Prince
rosecanadian thanked nanadollZ7 SWIdahorosecanadian
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6 years agoNever had the Prince, but LOVED Sharifa. Scent to die for. Beautiful flowers. Somewhat stingy with bloom after the first flush, however I too don't bloom much when it is over 105 degrees for weeks on end. The area where she was in my garden, I had grafted roses reverting back to rootstock, she had to go. If I had the space, I would get her again. When I first had her in a pot and saw her bloom, I was ready to get rid of all of my other roses and only grow her. She is that beautiful.
Ignore the date on the first picture. I didn't know how to fix it on the camera.
towandaaz
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Jade Woo
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoThe Prince was my first ever rose planted in our garden when we moved down to S Africa and welcomed the birth of our baby son (my husband chose the rose - he thought the name "the Prince" was the perfect for the occasion). It smells gorgeous and has the most amazing dark red. It took some time to establish (for the first two years he was just a few miserable sticks) and took us some trials and errors to find him a permanent spot - in our intense afternoon heat his scent becomes somewhat lost, and his dark petals would fry under the hot sun and turn a weird shade of purple. So over the years we dug him up three times before settling in his current spot. Each time he sulked for a week or so and recovered. He now gets about 4 hours of morning sun only so his deep colour and old rose scent are sheltered from the worst of the sun. He blooms well into winter too. I hardly ever spray and he doesn't have too much trouble with BS nor mildew even though he only gets half day sun. Sharifa was my second Austin rose. Her blooms are pretty, a delicate shade of pink and very fragrant. In the shade she seems to glow! She is not showy as some other Austin roses but I love to bury my nose into her fragrant petals and inhale deeply. She's pretty prolific and established quicker than the Prince. She also seems to enjoy afternoon shade as i find her a bit more white/washed out when in full day sun. At the moment I am having trouble with her foliage as my dog keeps peeing on her and the urine would scorch her leaves. Very annoyed !
the prince, about to open.
the same bud, a few hours later.
sharifa.
sharifa, showing off her pretty pink hues in the early evening.
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