I don't have RED MASTERPIECE. Never got around to grabbing that one. PROUD LAND is ok. Not a great bloomer tho. But it's planted out in a bed that's overrun by blackberry and yarrow, so that might explain it. This is a pic from a few yrs ago.

Beth, what do you think are the main differences between Brigadoon and Cary Grant? They look very similar to me, any preference of one over the other? Also looking forward and rooting for your success with summer song ;-)

Romogen, I live in San Mateo. Actually no grocery outlet here but I saw in Redwood City, San Jose mostly they have many GO

Cary Grant is thorny lol. Beth got Summer Song? Nice. I saw on HMF you have Folk Singer too, hard to find I got last year Purple Passion from LA

Romogen, CARY GRANT is waaay different from BRIGADOON. CG is a bright, often bordering on fluorescent, orange with a yellow reverse. BRIGADOON is a cream with a coral/pink phototropic overlay.

CARY GRANT

BRIGADOON

And it looks like I'm going to have a bunch of SUMMER SONGs rooted. I potted the cuttings up before Xmas, and so far, none have died... and lots of growth coming. Once I know for sure, I'll post something. I hope to save a few to donate to one of the suppliers and the rare rose auctions.

Oh shoot... Matthew, I need to remove FOLKSINGER from my listing. It died last summer. Only place that has it is Roses Unlimited.

I just went back to Grocery Outlet today and grabbed a replacement for
my dead ANGEL FACE and I also got ARIZONA. I have a mis-ID'd rose that I
was told was "probably" ARIZONA. Thought I'd get one and compare.
Haven't seen AZ available as a bagged bareroot, I don't think EVER.

Matthew. Since you are a "local" check out the Santa Barbara Craigslist. There is some one in Carp giving away roses in the free section

Glad you found Arizona again! I checked my inventory, and looks like I got mine last year as a Coiners bodybag from Lowe's. It bloomed correctly, and was much better than what I remembered. It seems to prefer NorCal over SoCal. I had it planted next to Veldfire and Octoberfest. Some days the coloring between VF & AZ were similar, but Veldfire won by a slight margin due to "cleaner" colors overall.

ARIZONA

VELDFIRE

It's funny really, I've had to revise many of my previous evaluations on certain roses having left Sunset zone 24 for SSZ 15 instead.

Darn it, now I have to get BOTH Cary Grant AND Brigadoon. I tell you something though, pictures of Brigadoon don't do it justice. I nearly singed my retinas the first time I saw established field grown flowers of it. Absolutely stunning.

Please keep me in mind when SS is ready. I would love two plants (if you have the numbers to spare) to maximize pollen collection for hybridizing. I have some rarities for trade too, but honestly @Bethnorcal9, I think you already have every rose I've ever looked up on HMF!

Is it just me or are new rose releases disappearing from commerce faster than in previous years?

Geeze, my HD had like 20 roses total. Hopefully they will get more selection soon.

Wow, if that's what AZ looks like, then I'm not so sure my mis-ID'd rose is it. Whaddaya think?

I have my CARY GRANT planted next to VELDFIRE. They go well together.

So Benaminh, what roses do you have to trade? Like I said, I'll keep ya posted about the success of SS rooting. But I'm pretty sure by now they're rooted. And yes I do think some of the newer roses go away faster than they used to. I guess if they don't do well in the first couple of yrs, the suppliers dump them. That's sad.

Kristine, your HD got 20 roses? Not 20 varieties? Ours had around 10 varieties. They used to get 20-30 varieties and then would have huge pallet/bins of mixed ones really cheap. They haven't done that for yrs tho.

Beth, your mis-ID rose above may be Arizona, it is within the color range of Arizona, but difficult to tell with multicolored roses in different climates. The coloring also resembles Dream Come True, but DCT has much better flower form than AZ. Have you compared the thorns, buds, sepals & leaves to confirm identity?

If you private message me your email I can send you my inventory list (which I need to update with this season's new purchases). Lemme know if anything strikes your fancy. If the mother plant is large enough I can send cuttings or stick some trimmings in the ground and see if they root for you.

I've been experimenting with chip budding, but no success yet. Hopefully next year I will have some Grey Pearls on VID rootstock, but that really depends on whether I can keep these tiny brand new own root plants alive first.

It's a shame new roses are getting dumped so quickly. Honey Dijon is a good one that's disappeared. I skipped getting Janice Kellogg last year, but now I wonder if Edmund's still even carries it. I don't like buying new releases sight unseen. I prefer checking HMF pictures first; however, I did grab a new All My Loving just for the hell of it. IMHO the best rose in that color class is Rina Hugo, so it will be tough competition. Who knows, AML isn't exactly selling like hot cakes. Maybe I'll rescue a few more at the end of bareroot season when it's 75% marked down.

I just bought 9 plants of Paradise Found because the single plant I got last year impressed me so much. I love lavender roses. Do you like Girls Night Out? I'm thinking of getting it but can't tell by the HMF pictures if it's similar colors, but darker lavender, to PF or just plain hot pink....

PARADISE FOUND

Well, whatever my NOID rose is... it's not DREAM COME TRUE. I got it several yrs before that one came out. It'll probably be AZ after all. I tried chip budding for the first time before Xmas with GELATO. That's the two-toned pink striped florist rose. I budded two of them, and so far so good. The cuttings I took are holding their own as well. Altho one of the 10 just turned black at the base a few days ago. The other 9 look good, altho one has growth that's lookin' kinda wilty. I just hope at least one or two will take. Oh and I just checked the SS cuttings, and one out of (I think it's) 10 looks like it's failing. The rest look pretty good tho! I also, at the same time, potted up a bunch of SPICE TWICE and what I'm hoping is SMOOTH ANGEL. Of course, the SA is looking really good, so it'll probably end up being rootstock! I took the cuttings off a plant at my mom's before we sold her house in December and I "think" it's SA. But most of her roses went to rootstock over the yrs, so my luck that's what it'll end up being!! Oh well, that'd give me more to bud with! LOL

As for PARADISE FOUND... Mine is nearly dead. I was tempted to order a replacement one but I'm going to try to zap that plant with some epsom salts this spring and see what happens. And GIRLS NIGHT OUT is a kinda trippy rose. The color is a weird kinda washed out dusty plum/mauve with a red blush. The thrips love it!! You wouldn't think they'd go after a dark colored rose, but they do!

GIRLS NIGHT OUT - this one isn't quite as "thrippy" as the other pics I have. This isn't really the true color. It's actually not that bright of a color. It's really kinda dull in person. But the form is nice and the blooms do last a long time. Maybe once I get her in the ground she'll do better...

I'll be anxious to see pics of ALL MY LOVING. I didn't order it because it's just a pure hot pink color. Sooooo many of those out there!! That's why I didn't try MIRANDA LAMBERT either. Hmmmm... did I see JANICE KELLOGG on Hortico's website recently?? No... just looked. I did see her somewhere.... Maybe RU?? Nope not there... Where the heck did I see her???? That's gonna drive me crazy now...

Nope, about 20 total. But it is early. Hopefully more to come

Well, that's a bummer. What varieties?

Beth All my loving is great rose but not much scent like it parent Big Purple. Do not buy Miranda Lambert, lol I bought it healthy tall but repeat is poor. I'm still love my Voluptuous among deep pink/fuchsia color class.

All my loving

most of the Roses at Home Depot at this point Queen Elizabeth and lots of them there was a few reds that I wasn't interested in and there were two twilight zones and I went back to get them and they were both gone of course so hopefully they'll get more .

I bought two body bag standards of Cherish which I'll be keeping potted..... hope they don't turn out to be duds hmf didn't have anything really promising to say about their disease resistance..... I also bought Medallion which again I should have probably passed on...... but I'm so done with winter at this point that I've probably made some poor purchasing desisions Oh well I'll find out soon enough!

I should be content I have lots of little rose seedlings to keep me company

I love medallion. It is such s big bloom and such a pretty color.

You really rock with the seedlings. They look great

Thank you Kristine! :)

I'm glad to hear something positive about Medallion, I have a thing for roses in the apricot range, hope it grows well.

Hey, Seeingreen, I hope you post some pics of those seedlings when they bloom!!

Wow!

I really admire your ability to propogate. Are they cuttings from roses that you currently have? I tried about 30 cuttings from roses out in the Jackson Perkins test Garden and I got none I think I was too impatient.

personally I loved Medallion it has the hugest Blossom on it I can't remember fragrance but it seems like it did have some fragrance to it but the color and that Bloom size alone is pretty nice.

I went to Walmart hearing everyone saying that there was a ton of roses there but they all looked really dried out, very few that looked green and healthy . There wasn't really anything I wanted. There was a pretty nice looking Chrysler Imperial but I have already purchased 6 reds so I'm looking for something different.

Woo-hoo, scored 3 Brigadoons, 2 Snowfire, 1 Camara, & 1 Altissimo @ Grocery Outlet

I love Brigadoon it's one of my very favorite roses I'm so glad you scored three of them

I'm going to go check out my grocery outlet today and see if they have anything that is wonderful

Kristine, the roses I'm rooting are from my yard, my mom's yard and the florist shop. I checked them this morning and I'm a little worried about a few of them. Some the new growth is starting to look "wilty." but the stems are still green. One of the florist roses, about half of those are not making it. But if I get just one or two, I'll be happy.

Benaminh... nice haul! I don't think I saw any CAMARAs at our Groc Outlet. I have it tho, so don't need it anyway. I probably should replace my SNOWFIRE one day tho. It's about 25yrs old. Be careful with that one... it's a thorny bugger!!!

I have about 7 Camara plants now, mostly bought bareroot last year from KMart. I like it for cut flowers and hybridizing work. I don't know why it's not more popular. The flower form is great and the color is exceptional and doesn't fade in hot weather.

Yes, Snowfire is thorny, but so is Hot Cocoa. I also like moss roses, so it's all relative. However, it doesn't preclude me from cursing them out when I get impaled by the thorns. Snowfire didn't perform well in SoCal, but I'm hoping it will be better in NorCal. It's also the parent of Liberty Bell and Osiria, one of my favorite bicolors, and I'm hoping to use it in some seedling crosses.

Beth, Nothing new to report, I'm still missing a RVR box from the USPS. Oh, about your NOID rose, could it be Broadway?

Well, Grocery Outlet had no roses and they don't know if they're getting any so as long as I was there I bought this to put out ony fence

Hmmm.. never really compared that rose to BROADWAY. Altho I imagine if it looked close, I would've noticed. Whatcha got comin' from RVR? I've been waiting for over 2yrs for PAPI DELBARD and VICTORIANA.

Kristine, that dragonfly is cute! Our GO got in a bunch of big ceramic Buddha heads last week for $9.99. Sold out fast.

This was my Rogue Valley Roses order:

Double Treat

Fakir's Delight x5

Fa's Marbled Moss

Gabrielle Noyelle

Gloire des Mousseux

Grey Pearl x3

Ilse Krohn Superior

Lady Stuart

McGredy's Ivory

Mel Hulse

Toujours Gai

Painter's Palette

Wichmoss

Beautiful Anne

Black Tea

Florange

Incantation

Independence

Licorice Tea

Little Grey Pearl

Mme Berard

Morning Blush

Pinstripe

Radio Times

Rook

SWALK

Sympathie

Treasure Trail

Winning Colors

Wowww!!!! That's one crazy list Benaminh!! Can't wait to see bloom pics in the coming season.

I've been bad at keeping on top of rose pictures last year. It's a goal of mine to take pictures of the whole bush or one with different stages of bud/blown flowers like above with AZ & VF. Too many times on HMF there are hundreds of glamour shots of the same flower, but none documenting habit or how old flowers age. That's important to know when rose shopping sight unseen or for identification purposes. Show me how ugly the plants can be ;-). For example, I almost bought SOS Children's Village & Amalia Dee from Ludwig's, but got turned off by how the flowers age by these pics. If I hadn't known and just purchased, I wouldn't have been satisfied with my purchase:

Amalia Dee

SOS Children's Village

I went overboard this year. I ordered a gazillion roses from 5+ mail order rose nurseries and loads more from local places:

OMG, Brigadoon jackpot! 12 of them at Santa Rosa Grocery Outlet.

I pretty much cleared out the plant shelves. Dunno why this GO location was saving them just for me:

Brigadoon is my favorite Rose I like it better than Gemini actually I think the flower is bigger and prettier. Congratulations on your big score

@bethnorcal9 how about I trade you this big buxom 6-caned beauty of a Sunset Celebration for the aforementioned Summer Songs?

Sunset celebration is a beauty. Such a pretty color

Woweee Benaminh!!!! That's a lotta BRIGADOONs!!! That's a lotta roses!! So.... are those your SOS CHILDRENS ROSE and AMALIA DEE pics? I like the looks of AD. I've only ever seen Ludwig's pics and they aren't that exciting. I should've gotten her. I love my SOS CHILDRENS ROSE. That's a nice specimen of SC, but I would imagine the shipping wouldn't be worth it. Did you pick that up at OSH on their 30% off sale? I wonder if the Chico one still has them on sale. Might have to go look this weekend.

OMG... aren't we crazy???? LOL

I told you Brigadoon in GO is healthier. BTW I got two Diamond Jubilee standard and one Sheer Elegance standard from costco, a bit late though trees are kind of dry. Roots system is good. Home Depot quart pots sold out quick in every HD as sun came out. Those roses are very healthy though. I purchased 6 total since I posted this post, Yellow Blaze, Fragrant Memory, New Year CL, Red Peace, Red Masterpiece, Blossomtime. I think done for now, waiting some own root order from Roses Unlimited and few David Austins. I'm going LA next week. There is small growers around Riverside have some hard to find roses from past, take some times to find what I'm looking for. I got lover lane and purple passion last time. 5 gallons for 9.99

Hopelessly obsessed I'm afraid.... No, I didn't get SC from OSH, it was from Friedman's, a local hardware store. There are ways to lower the shipping cost. I can pot it up, wait for the green growth to harden, then ship it bareroot to you. It's do-able until the daytime temperatures approach the mid-70's. Another option is waiting until Autumn and shipping it to you bareroot then. A single bareroot rose is lightweight, especially trimmed top & bottom. I'm not twisting your arm mind you, I just figured you wanted SC. After I purchased SC last month I decided I wanted to continue searching for Valencia instead.

Those pics of AD & SOS are not mine, took a lot of searching online to find ANY images of those Ludwig's roses. Some, like PURE MAGIC, I still can't find any pictures. Roses are getting too expensive to buy completely blind, sight unseen, when there are still gads on my wishlist that I KNOW are excellent.

I was super happy to find the Brigadoons, can't wait to have the cut flowers in a vase in my house. They're not... pretty growers... so I will plant them with PARADISE FOUND in the cutting garden next to the vegetables versus in the main display borders.

Wow Matthew $9.99 for 5gal roses??? Nice!! Let us know what you find. I'm getting anxious to see what potted roses will be coming in this yr. I'm jealous of you guys living down there in So Cal.. all those places to go looking for roses. We're limited to a few places up here. Probably just as well. I'd be spending all my spare time driving around everywhere looking for them.

Hopelessly obsessed is right, man!! Yeah, we could do the trade-thing in the fall. It'll be til then that I'd feel comfortable shipping the SS's out anyway. So, do me a favor and take pics of that SUNSET CELEBRATION when it blooms. All the pics I see of it are apricot-y. This is what mine usually looks like:

It's usually this orangey color with a yellow reverse. I seriously think it's something else. Either that or I got it and another rose mixed up when I planted them yrs ago!

Paradise Found is definitely good choice to grow in CA, this is one of the roses that color intensity change on sunlight, totally no disease, vigorous, Big bloom and fragrant.

Beth I'm not sure, it looks like Octoberfest or Folklore if very tall

octoberfest

Could be anything... I should go look back at my old hand-written schematic of the bed it was in before the septic re-do. Maybe I got it and another rose mixed up. There were numerous orange blends in that bed.... Problem is it would've been mixed up before the dig-up. Or it could just have been a mis-marked plant to begin with.

I have OCTOBERFEST and FOLKLORE. I don't think it's either of them. But then, I haven't ever compared them before.

Sounds good Beth, that's a deal! I'll post pictures of SC when it starts blooming.

I have to agree it is a sickness it's an obsession. I have a Dozen Roses coming I have a dozen roses and I'm still out madly looking for more it's crazy where am I going to put them all? I'll bet I'll find a place. And then I find a site that sells MINI Flores so now I'm hooked on finding more of them it's crazy I tell you but always going to be so pretty when it's all done isn't it

I am really hoping my Home Depot has more Kordes roses this year!

Me too Boncrow! And Lowes too! I would like to get MADAME ANISETTE and EARTH ANGEL. And hopefully some of those new roses too!!

well I made the trip out to Lowe's and a sorrier assortment of roses I have never seen . I don't know what it is about the Rogue Valley but we have such little Variety in roses. I didn't see anything by Kordes didn't see any English roses blah blah bla. it's a good thing that I have plenty of nice places to order from because I have been all over this Valley and have not seen anything that I just have to have

I've only mail ordered and gone to RVR, Kristine.