If Hillary had won, you'd see the same things from the right. Both candidates were hated. Trump himself eluded to violence if he lost and was even thought by many to have encouraged it. Don't kid yourself, Mimi.

You can't compare the response to Obama's inauguration with the response to Trump's. Obama had an 80% approval at his inauguration. Trump's is about 35% right now. Even Bush had a 60% approval, even after the controversy of the SC determining him the winner.

I truly believe that Trump was speaking tongue-in-cheek when he told Russia to find Hillary's emails. Remember that she tried to say they were lost or didn't exist, but we later learned that she had them bleach-bit, after they were subpoenaed by Congress.

Anyone who creates a violent act or excessive disruption at the Inauguration (or at the confirmation hearings) should be charged with a felony and face jail time and a stiff fine. This is not a third-world country, and people shouldn't act like ruffians.

And, for an elected official to boycott a Presidential Inauguration is despicable, regardless of their party affiliation. It's time for our elected officials to grow up and start doing their jobs!

You'll never convince me that Trump voters would have done and fomented what Hillary voters have done.
To the extent of violence that we've so sadly witnessed? No.

The fear mongering from the left is so very precious right now.

Didn't the Trumper himself applaud and congratulate his own supporters for being violent and vicious?

It was time eight years ago, and our elected officials didn't do their jobs. Remember when we were in the greatest financial crisis since the Great Depression? We weathered that, thanks to Obama. So now they're going to get to work and you want Democrats to just go along? Which moderates are left in your party for Dems to work with? I think you voted them all out.

Go along? No, never is that my expectation and it's a FAR CRY from fomenting violence and anarchy.

Straw man.

Conservatives have done nothing like the libs have done. Look at Tea Party rallies and the clean up after them vs the clean up after the dems rallies. Look at the OWS and the huge messes they left; look at the natives up in ND protesting the pipeline.

If they want to PEACEFULLY demonstrate, fine. If they want to get violent, I am sure someone can tamp that down immediately.

I did not look at the OP's vid but some are suggesting they put some kind of lethal gas into the HVAC systems. That is WAY overboard. And if it happens should be charged with felonies.

Ok, never heard of the stuff so I will edit to say noxious? Smelly? OK?

They should be charged with plotting terrorism.

I stopped watching the video when it showed excerpts from the oaths of office of Reagan, GHW Bush, Clinton, and GW Bush, but not Obama. Why would his have been left out, do you think?

I hope this is fake news. Short of chaining me to the Washington Monument and propping my eyelids open with tooth picks, you couldn't make me watch the inauguration, but I don't believe there should be any violence or harassment of the PE or the spectators. I also don't care who performs or doesn't perform, or who attends or doesn't attend.

I have renewed respect for all the former presidents and first ladies who will attend--who will do so to show solidarity and support for our country and the office of the POTUS. God bless and keep everyone safe, even You Know Who.

ETA, after reading gardenerlori's post: In the
first few seconds of the video, they are discussing using butyric acid
in the vents. It's not lethal, but it stinks to high heavens--it's
naturally present in vomit, and milk products, BTW. I don't condone that
behavior, but it's not going to kill anyone.

My response was to wanda's statement, as follows. I wasn't throwing up a strawman.

And, for an elected official to boycott a Presidential Inauguration is
despicable, regardless of their party affiliation. It's time for our
elected officials to grow up and start doing their jobs!

Please, don't pretend that Trump supporters haven't been violent. There were many acts of violence at Trump's rallies, which he encouraged by his tone and by promising to pay their legal fees.

The far left that protested at anti-Trump rallies in Portland were for the most part anarchists who protest at every rally and have the potential for violence. Look at the May Day protests in Seattle. These are not your everyday Democrats or liberals. I didn't watch the video long enough to form a conclusion about those particular men but they are not representative of liberals any more than violent white supremacist groups are representative of conservatives.

gardener, The video says they were planning to put a really stinky/smoky acid in the HVAC system, not a lethal substance. It would drive everyone out of the inaugural venue into the streets. It would cause panic and chaos. They also wanted to turn on the sprinkler system. The people would panic; some might get hurt running out. Their tactics clearly would create terror. They are terrorists by definition. Democrats who support this type of behavior cannot have the best interests of their fellow citizens at heart. There are legal ways to protest.

Just as there are decent Republicans and (quite separately) extremists like white supremacists, so are there "regular liberals" (violence has never been their style) and extremist groups like the one in the video, assuming it's real. Please do not lump them together.

I watched only a small part of the video, but if those people are for real they belong in a classification all their own.

Democrats who support this type of behavior cannot have the best interests of their fellow citizens at heart.

Which Democrats support this?

mayflowers, To your question, "Which Democrats support this?" Answer, to quote Hillary Clinton, "...unfortunately there are people like that". There are people who support violence in the name of a "cause" or a political ideology. Even Malcolm X furthered his cause, "By any means necessary". Violence is never right., and there are those who cheer it on.

"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? [Laughter/applause]. The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that."

Fake "news."

Another Leftist group called DisruptJ20 is planning to disrupt the Inauguration.

http://downtrend.com/katrina/radical-liberals-plans-to-disrupt-trumps-inauguration-exposed

What they say they are going to do is another example of ILLEGAL protest. This is not fake news.

Yeah, pinkpaula, Republicans would have done the exact same thing.

Not ;-)

These leftist are nothing more than criminals, terrorists, anarchists and most definitely not Americans.

There are messages all over the internet warning people who plan to attend the demonstrations not to allow themselves to become too excited by people encouraging them the shout hateful and maybe illegal slogans. These are hired instigators. Read up on it.

ain pls lets consider the source - OKeefe (aka Proj Veritas), as noted in Wiki article, has a history of operations proven to be fraudulent or at best questionable. He, Breitbart, Alex Jones et al are considered RW propagandists, not reputable journalists.

Yes I spoze we have some of that on the left but here's the difference. I would not post anything known to be questionable or unsubstantiated, or not being reported in a more mainstream source. Heres a recent example - the reporting about "unsubstantiated intelligence" that Russians supposedly havea lot of "dirt" on Trump that make him vulnerable to blackmail. What if I posted the article here that I read recently on a far LW site that claims the "dirt" involves some kinky sexual behavior that was described in lurid detail. What if I posted that and insisted it was true? Well, I wouldnt because I dont know and because most of the reportage and the intelligence agys are saying "unsubstantiated.". I think it MIGHT be but I dont know.

I assume we want to have actual conversations with people who think differently from us.... otherwise, why are we posting here at all? Why not just post to friends on Facebook?

Assuming this true, then HOW can this be done, if we cant even agree on what the reality is or what is a reputable news source????

Im serious! I have no idea how to bridge that gap. Not here, nor with sibs/family.

Current Resident, You ask, "HOW can this be done, if we cant even agree on what the reality is"? Ok. Not one more post needs to be entered on this thread. We can stop "guessing" what the truth is concerning planned attempts by the Left to disrupt the inauguration of Donald Trump. We can set aside every current mainstream report and source of information. All we have to do is watch the activities leading up to the Inauguration on Friday, January 20, 2017. If violent disruptions occur, you will know the truth. If you are objective and you see the disruptions and the breaking of the laws concerning peaceful protests, you will have to admit that groups on the Left generated and participated in the violence. OK? Will your own eyes be the judge? Or, will you still call the truth, "unsubstantiated fake news"?

As my grandfather used to say, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

And, some protesters are being paid to cause problems.
Again, this is not "fake news".

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/17/ads-two-dozen-cities-offer-protesters-2500-agitate/

Whatever happens this week, Donald Trump WILL be the president on Friday. The demonstrations just make Democrats look like desperate losers. Pitiful.

I have a comment above about that gas that stinks to high heaven. When people stampede to get out of there, it is highly likely that someone could be trampled to death or seriously injured.

Now. onto the points about the paid protestors to disrupt the inauguration. I saw reports in many different cities advertising for people at good pay rates! With health insurance and other benes. And before you libbies say it is fake news; it is not.

^^ Links, please?

Are you deliberately obtuse? There is a link right above my post by pinkpaula. I invite you to read it.

Snopes looked into those ads by a group calling themselves Demand Protest. Go read what they had to say.

No, you're not looking past what right wing news tells you to determine the source for yourself. Snopes dug a little deeper. Why didn't the Washington Times do the same?

And, some protesters are being paid to cause problems.
Again, this is not "fake news".

Absolutely true: one of those offering to pay protesters was James O'Keefe of Project Veritas! (see the link at my post above....)

". It would drive everyone out of the inaugural venue into the streets.'

Pinkpaula, isn't the inaugural venue IN the streets? Like outdoors? On the steps of the Capitol?

gardenerlorisc_ia "Are you deliberately obtuse?" Is that necessary???

I think the guys in the James O' Keefe video planned to disrupt the DeploraBall, whatever that is. I hate to give those websites and Youtube videos clicks so I only watch enough to get the gist. It makes me feel dirty and I have to exit quickly.

It's just as believable that "Demand Protest" could be a right wing group who want to make it look like liberals are wanting to cause trouble. The ad that circulated on RW blogs after the election looking for paid protesters was found to be bogus. But gullible people who read these conspiracy blogs like Infowars (which also posted this latest claptrap) do their dirty work for them by repeating what they read. It's very upsetting when it finds its way here, where people trust those posters because they think of them as friends.

Whatever happens this week, Donald Trump WILL be the president on
Friday. The demonstrations just make Democrats look like desperate
losers. Pitiful.

I wouldn't place any bets on it being peaceful, but why are you painting all Democrats as losers because of the actions of a few?

gardenerlorisc_ia

Are you deliberately obtuse? There is a link right above my post by pinkpaula. I invite you to read it.

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Are you deliberately rude and obnoxious? You wrote " I saw reports in many different cities advertising for people at good
pay rates! With health insurance and other benes. And before you
libbies say it is fake news; it is not."

Which sounds like you have reports in addition to what PinkPaula posted. I was merely asking for links to those.

Summer, yes it is necessary; considering a link is directly above my post.

Mayflowers: Snopes? You post an extreme left wing rag and expect people to believe that? Surely you jest.

You don't have to believe anything you read. Snopes found out some information about Demand Protest that Washington Times and the conspiracy blogs didn't bother to inform their readers about. They only posted the ad with no research on the organization. Are they not investigative journalists at WT? We know very little about who is behind the group, and it seems like small potatoes anyway. When you go to their website, they're not taking applications for protesters. Yet you'll believe plenty of things from right wing blogs who are notorious for posting crazy stuff just to get all you conservatives worked up over nothing. Google Trump's good buddy Roger Stone to see who is behind much of the RW lies.

http://www.snopes.com/paid-protesters-donald-trumps-inauguration/

No one will be changing anyone's views, so why bother to continue slugging away at one another? Both the topic and the comments made by those on each side are inane and pointless.

I stopped name calling pretty much after kindergarten, and learned in high school and college to be critical in understanding what real information sources are and aren't. How about you all?

Aren't many of the topics on KT inane and pointless? I just scroll on by instead of poking my nose in and telling them to find something more to my liking to occupy their time.

Wherever anyone is while reading this thread, it's at least the cocktail hour or even later. Have a drink, relax, and offer up a meatloaf recipe or an answer to the trivia quiz.

Oh, those darn emails on an unsecured server and those DNC missives which showed their attempt to thwart our democratic process by cheating?

And how did she go from being deep in debt to being worth millions while $6 billion just went "poof" and disappeared from the State Department on her watch? Was it hijacked by the Russians?

Hmmm, selling Bill's used underwear? Selling influence with the incoming administration? Glad that didn't happen.

Never mind on the underwear; they took that to Goodwill and got good tax write-offs for that. Who in the heck would want bill's underwear unless it would be to check DNA?

It doesn't surprise me. Trump is the most hated man ever to take office. Obama had a 80% approval rate entering office , Trump has a 37%. He is despised. He's an immoral racist misogynist creep who is in cahoots with his pal Putin. Where's his tax returns? How come none of you RWers want to see who he does business with? Why don't you care about the moral fiber of the most powerful person in the world? Married three times, cheated on all three wives, accused by a dozen women of sexually grabbing them,(just like he said on the tape), held rallies where he screamed profanities and told his crowd to beat up dissenters. Six bankruptcies. Obama had a totally scandal-free eight years. He'll be impeached very quickly. Wanna take bets when?

Lily--I am a lefty. Come from a family of lefties. We argue who is the most lefty at Thanksgiving! I do not believe that Trump will be impeached. Sadly, I do not. Why not? Because the right does not care. Most Americans don't care. Look at our voting turn out. They just don't care. Not at all. Not one iota. For those who did vote, the hatred and vitriol for Hillary did us in at the end. Logic, reason, and civility lost. And, we have a republican Congress who will confirm all of these no-experience billionaires. We'll even confirm Tom Price because they don't care. They just want to "stick it" to the Obama legacy. I am at a loss and feel sad for our nation.. Maybe 20 million Americans have to lose their healthcare for us to get a wake-up call.

I haven't read but a few replies...it's giving me a twitch like the Obama farewell thread was! HA!

These days we need to think of these stories that are floating around the internet as no more credible than what we would read in The National Enquirer. We all know that is made up garbage...right? So why is everyone believing crazy stories just because they see it on Facebook or whatever social media it comes from. Maybe we should go back to watching real news such as ABC, CBS, and NBC! If they make up false stories, they have to pay the consequences. Just ask Brian Williams!

Our Country is suffering from (false) information overload and everyone is going nuts over it!

some sort of "false flag" operation - history is full of that sort of thing. often leading to dire consequences.

I hadn't even thought of that. Now I'm worried over steps he'd take after doing that. I'm sad. I was hoping it'd ok, but now I'm wondering if he wouldn't take the opportunity to lay down his new law of order that he's choosing. It better not be the case.

Ark girl thx you said what I was trying to say, only more directly. Ive been finding BBC, CBC & european sources most reliable these days- I do think its good to also read from left,center and yes right sources - anything and everything as long as its grounded in reality. Its VERY interesting what gets said, what gets left out, how they phrase things to make their side look good and the other side look bad.

Whats different these days is that the known disinformation sites - Breitbart, Alex Jones, veritas, have gotten traction along with self-described neo-nazis and white supremacists( their words) now rebranding themselves as "nationalists" crafting a message and putting it out via the PE & the disinformation sites,

Whats different now is not these people exist - they always have - but that there seems to be more cult-thinking out there - people walling themselves in, flat out refusing to consider any views or take in any information that contradicts what the leaders tell them.

Re OPs post, since it is not appearing anywhere but the fringey far rw disinformation sites.... is not being presented as fact anywhere else and seemingly is being discredited.... if anything happens I will tend to think it may be a "false flag" operation perpetrated possibly by Okeefe & Co himself.

No amt. of anymous strangers on the internet repeating "its not fake news" is going to mean anything - it will be me sifting through various sources to try to determine what's going on. Yep a PITA - timeconsuming - but that's the reality these days.

PS paula - in answer to your question, yes if I go through my fact finding process and it turns out that lefties are behaving badly or in the wrong... I will be the first to admit it. . Whether or nto it happens I would ask you to not take isolated incidents and smear all "left". Like your header fer instance - the plans of "the left". What "left?" What a scary world you must live in if 50% of the population are out to do you harm.

I'm not citing the behavior of the nutjob who shot up and killed black churchgoers as representative of the entire right am I? So please show your fellow Americans on this forum who have different views from you the same courtesy.

As of right now though ... not seeing any credible sources for this supposed plot - only the known disinformation sites (per Wikipedia). Though I suppose Wik now considered "left" too, even though righties can and are busy adding/editing content themselves. Sigh.

I saw that it's supposed to cost over $100 million to secure this event. That's a lot of tax money. Sad.

Trump hates the media. What he doesn't realize is they put him there. They'd interrupt shows to take his calls from his golden throne, they'd break away during news programs to go to his rallies afraid they'd miss the violence or the hateful rhetoric from him and his supporters giving him millions and millions of dollars of FREE ads. NO publication supported him...none including republican ones and ones who never gave an endorsement before. Don't be too quick to hate the National Enquirer...Trump loves them. They were his only endorsement and he cites them positively all the time.

Anne, maybe or maybe not he will be impeached. Frankly, I don't want him to be although I think that is the grand plan of the GOP. Every single one of them dislikes him and want Pence. I am far more scared of homophobic Pence and his conversion therapy for gays and his archaic abortion views. Thou doest protest too much, Mike.

I don't want the Trumper impeached. God no. PENCE IS WORSE. Conversion therapy? Oh no. Stay alive Trumper. Stay alive.

Racist Sexist Anti-Gay. Trumper Trumper Go Away. That'll be me on Saturday--in Washington--at the March. I'll be wearing a pink hat!

Me too. I'll look for you...

Have any of you looked at all of the James O'keefe vidoes???? Also, Where can I get news that isn't FAKE?????