Winter hardiness of Southern Magnolia 'Kay Parris'
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Comments (2)I am a Southern girl and a big fan of Southern Magnolias (Magnolia Grandiflora), Bracken's Brown Beauty is a type of Southern Magnolia. Traditional wisdom says that it is really hard to grow a Southern Magnolia north of Philadelphia. You simply live in too cold a climate for a Southern Magnolia to survive with ease. This is not to say that it cannot be done. If you plant your Southern Magnolia in a sheltered, warm and sunny spot you might have some success with your new tree, as you have had with your mystery Magnolia. I sometimes push the envelope a bit myself. Right now I have a Crepe Myrtle growing in my front yard, right outside my southwest facing dining room window. But this last cold snap, when temperatures dropped to 12 degrees, has caused me to rethink the wisdom of planting that Crepe Myrtle, and I rather dread Spring's revelations as to the damage that poor plant has surely sustained. I now wish I had planted a Serviceberry, instead of a Crepe Myrtle. It would have a been a more merciful choice....See MoreSouthern magnolia(Magnolia Grandiflora) tree leaf question
Comments (20)I've seen lots of DDB, it is a popular landscape tree in the SE. I've only seen one EB, my tree. EB's main claim to fame is it's supposed hardiness. Mine is in full sun and wide open, no large trees anywhere near it. It is about 20-25 years old from a one gallon. It is wider than high, branched to the ground, and fairly open with somewhat long willowy branches. It took a long time to bloom, and is even now a rather shy bloomer. Blooms are of average size. For me EB has been of average hardiness, it has never lost any wood or suffered any bark split, but it has had browned foliage, though never defoliated. On a scale of 1-5 I rate it 3. DDB is very popular and often seen in private landscapes and especially public ones. It is upright in youth and more spreading as it ages, but taller than wide. Foliage is deep glossy green above and copper/red beneath, especially when young. The tree presents a lush, rich appearance and is a vigorous grower. Floriferousness has been average, but blooms are well formed and slightly smaller than average, a good thing IMHO. Hardiness has been on a par with EB for me, the literature says less hardy than other hardy clones, zone 7. On a scale of 1-5 I rate it 5. All magnolias grown under conditions you describe will tend to be open, with slightly larger than average foliage and less than average bloom, all due to shade. If DDB and EB are the only clones under consideration, my choice would be DDB....See MoreSouthern Magnolia: How to ID a Brackens Brown Beauty from a Little Gem
Comments (5)They're quite different when seen in person, try looking for them at independent garden centers in your area. Then of course there is 'Kay Parris', which is from a crossing of the two others. It also is on the general market. I've seen 'Little Gem' over 40' tall in the LA area, genetically it is actually a narrow grower rather than a bushy one - the broad habit shown by so many propagules is presumably due to them coming from side branches on stock plants. And actually quite a few of these clones do go on later to start pulling themselves up into the truly characteristic shape. So it being marketed as "dwarf magnolia" isn't really apt. Although 40' is of course small for a southern magnolia, which can otherwise grow more than double that height - given enough time and an environmental setting that promotes the development of such stature. In my area the M. grandiflora cultivars presented by local retailers tend to come from this company: https://plants.monrovia.com/search?w=magnolia+grandiflora...See MoreBbb, Edith bogue, Kay parris, Alta, Victoria? What to choose for Z6?
Comments (15)Henry - you seem to live close by, do you know where the Cleveland Metropark Polo Fields are on Chagrin River Road? If you go up the hill past S. Woodland towards Chagrin Blvd there is a house at the top of the hill on the right hand side. The owner has planted a long row of Magnolia grandiflora on both sides of their driveway that have been growing for several years. It doesn't win any awards for landscape design, but if you are the friendly type you could go and knock on their door to ask them what variety they planted. As far as the "deer thing" is concerned, please don't fool yourself that the deer will stay out of your plantings just because they have the woods to live in. I used to live directly in front of the Geauga Parks Heron Rookery that is over 500 acres of woodland and the deer would occasionally pass through my gardens at night and eat everything they possibly could. They are creatures of habit, and the minute they find out that you have a deer smorgasbord of tender young plants in your yard it won't be long until they invite their friends to your place for dinner. Just wanted to give you a heads up, from my own personal experience....See Morefirforest
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