Home water filtration and water softeners
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Can someone advise me on either water filtration/softener?
Comments (4)You didn't comment regarding the whole house carbon filter. Your posted quote shows a softener but no prices. No inline filter will remove hardness, iron, or manganese so without a softener you'll be living with that and drinking it and exposing all your plumbing, fixtures, and appliances to it. As for sodium added to softened water... The formula for added sodium is 7.85 mg/l (about a quart) of softened water per grain per gallon of compensated hardness. EXAMPLE 7 gpg * 7.85 = 55 mg of sodium added per liter of softened water, not salt. How does this sodium content of softened water compare to sodium found in common foods? The table demonstrates the usual range of sodium in common foods. Food Amount Mg of Sodium Ketchup 1 tablespoon 204 Milk 2 Cups 226 Frozen Peas 1/2 Cup 295 Bread 2 Slices 322 Corn Flakes 1 oz. 260 Parmesan Cheese 1 oz. 528 Tomato Juice 4 oz. 504 Tomato Soup 1 Cup 932 Chili 1 Cup 1194 Beef Broth 1 Cup 1152 Not as much sodium added as you think? SFR is Service Flow Rate which is calculated based on plumbing size, pressure, and fixtures. SFR is a must consideration when sizing a softener otherwise hardness will leak through at peak flow. If I were you I'd hit the Yellow Pages and call at least three local water treatment pros. Make sure you call at least one of the big dogs like Kinetico or Culligan for comparison and at least a couple independent pros. DON'T TELL THEM YOU HAD YOUR WATER TESTED. Give each an opportunity to offer suggestions and provide you with a quote to meet your water treatment needs. IGNORE ANY THAT DON'T TEST YOUR WATER THEMSELVES as they can't speak intelligently to water treatment without knowing what needs to be treated. Ask lots of questions. Softening the entire house or just the water heater (IMO a bad idea)? Warranty, parts & labor or just parts, how long and on exactly what? Install, permits required, licensed plumber? Routine maintenance and costs? Do they stock parts? Response time for emergency (water leak) calls? If they don't explain things to your satisfaction that is a good indicator of how you'll be treated after the sale. After they've gone use your water test to compare with theirs. Are all your treatment needs being addressed? Ask your neighbors if they have any water treatment experience. They might tell you who's good or who to avoid. Come back here and post the specific recommendations and hardware components with the costs and we'll give you our opinions....See MoreWater Filtration and Softening Systems
Comments (3)We have high sulfur and high ph in well water. We went with Culligan chlorination system. There are two different kinds of sulfur in well water. Ours has sulfur bacteria. A harmless nuisance bacteria. Aeration will not work on sulfur bacteria. It looks like that is what you may have since each company is suggesting equipment that kills bacteria. You don't mention a retention tank which goes before the carbon filter. Research online from my experience and from each water co. we had come to our house says retention tank is needed. Sulfur in well water is difficult. Problem is getting the correct dosage. As chlorine ages it deteriorates, our well water the sulfur level changes so getting the correct dosage of chlorine takes work. You use a pool test kit to check the chlorine level before it goes to the carbon filter. We got a backwashing carbon filter. Cartridge carbon filter clog to quickly. Our equipment is 10 years old and we haven't had a problem. Get it right the water taste good and no smell. When the dosage is off you may not notice the smell ( you get immune to it) but those who visit will notice. We get our drinking water from a natural spring nearby that many people from all over come to. However, I will occasionally taste the water just to be sure everything is working good and as long as the dosage is right the water taste good....See MoreDIY whole house filtration and water softener install
Comments (1)The filter and softener each will have losses depending on how much flow you're trying to push through them. So, yes. And placing a section of 3/4" line in the middle of a 1" line will also reduce the pressure, especially since you'll probably have a lot of fittings to get into/out of your filter. You'd get the least pressure loss by piping up to your filter with 1" and then reduce to 3/4" at each connection....See MoreNew house water filtration and softening plan
Comments (8)Hi Ed. So the person you really want to hear from on here is Aliceinwonderland. That said, here's my 2 cents. You can't really design a filtering system until you get the water sample tested at a reputable independent lab. Water reports aren't all that helpful. There are some things that will come back in that test that will significantly change the design of any treatment system (such as iron being present). If you are concerned about chlorine, consider the higher cross-linked resin in a water softener. I think that carbon filtering all of the water going through the softener would be vastly more expensive (in filters) and introduce more pressure drop than just changing out the resin in 10 years. In my home, I have a big blue housing and carbon filter on the drinking water, but not anything else. My toilets just don't need carbon filtered water. Note that pressure drop is not a good indicator of a carbon filter's ability to remove contaminates. There look to be some very high-flow applications (multi head shower, large tub) that you need to put some numbers to as far as gallons per minute. Those numbers are important in the design. You will also need to determine how many gallons per day used in the household. I think a normal estimate is 75-80 gallons per person per day. Just a couple tips about PEX: Pex pipe is cheap, but the brass fittings are stupid expensive. After doing my manifold / filter / tankless setup in pex I realized it would have been much easier / cheaper in copper because of all the fittings. After the manifold it makes sense to use pex. Also, pex has a smaller ID and the fittings fit inside the pipe, rather than outside the pipe like copper. Don't assume the same flow rates for 1" copper and pex, for example. So, to reiterate: Post back here when you have your test results. Provide the GPM on the high-flow uses. Also let us know how many people in the house so we can estimate the gallons per day. Lastly, reconsider doing whole house carbon / sediment filtering using big blue filter housings and instead think about filtering drinking water....See MoreUser
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