I've used microwave plates, a big punch bowl, and large heavy serving dishes for free-standing ones and vases and toothpick holders for ones being put on pipe. Copper pipe has gotten so expensive that I've been painting pvc conduit to look like copper and they fit better inside the vases and toothpick holders since they are thicker around than the copper pipe I usually use. I used Lexel to glue mine...longer cure time (3 weeks), but I am very happy with the reults so far. Here is a link that might be useful: Some of my totems

Sorry arcy, but you're totally wrong. It's never a waste of time when you create something that brings you pleasure. If you make it right, it will last a long time. I had another glass gem suncatcher that I had outdoors, mind you, for several years and managed to hold up very well hung under an awning. You could see it sparkle from blocks away. Eventually, we got rid of the awning when we got our new windows, so the suncatcher was put away. I did get constant compliments and a few orders for them from people in the neighborhood, so that was nice. The last suncatcher I made was up for 2 years, but I have recently restrung it, and it's so sparkly and beautiful worthy of your envy! I have never had any problems with them tangling up or glass breaking, and we are known as the Windy City!! You don't get that problem if you space each string slightly apart and of course hang each with a swivel, that way they don't crash into each other ever. I need to get new pics for you all to see.

Is someone handy at your house? I bought a glue gun holder & it is great. The glue if it drips ends up on a 4 in. sq. ceramic tile. it is so handy. I'll try & get pic & ask Kudzu if she will post it. Some lady was selling them several yrs ago, she hand painted design or I think it may have been me. Anyway it makes it look better. Glue gun isn't likely to drop on floor or table & do damage but I always use a 1 ft wide board that is covered with vinyl used in cabinetmaking & in better cabinets. It is white & great for crafts. My piece was supposed to be a shelf, 28 in. long.It just wipes clean & at xmas doubles as extra counter space in kitchen for cookies that need frosting, I open a top drawer & lay it on there with the edge just inside top lip of drawer so it won't fall if I bump it. It wipes clean of paint, glue, etc. Sold at Home Depot I imagine or may have to ask for shelf piece from cabinet shop. You want the shelf as it is vinyl on front & back & front edge of it. I had a large wedding cake board my DH made me & it was stolen by a fancy club even though it had my name on bottom,lady did pay me for it. Anyway great stuff for crafts & cakes!! The glue holder is just 2 pieces of wood 3/4 in. pine base is 11 in. long & 5 in wide. The holder part is 5 in wide & 5 in tall with bottom edge going into base board where it has been cut out 4 in. in from 1 end. You need something that will cut down & remove area 3/4 in wide (holder fits in that slot)& 1/4 in. deep into the board. then go in 1 7/8 in. towards middle on each side & cut out a U that is where the glue gun goes. Glue the holder piece into the base piece, paint any color or stain & varnish. Then paint design on it if you are handy otherwise glue tile on the longer end about 1/2 in out from holder part. That's it!! Pic will really help so I will get going on that!! Jan

Chris2009_2009, I'll try to answer your question though I'm not an expert by any means. Sounds like instead of 8 way hand tied springs, coil springs, s-springs, blue steel springs the furniture you are looking at has rubber webs to hold the cushions up. I may be wrong here but my best guess is check out an upholstered dining/kitchen chair, usually they have a webbing underneath them to hold the upholstered seating in place and give support. Of course the furniture could just be rubber/vinyl strips going from front to back or side to side like a lawn chair.