Kitchen Design & Layout Considerations
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Another stab at layout...and beginnings of BS consideration
Comments (14)Good morning! Thanks numbersjunkie, for taking the time to give feedback. The bump out is kinda interesting...who would have thought? mpagmom - Sounds like you think I might be on a good track here? I love your counter to ceiling cabinet. My only concern is that our peninsula is likely going to end up some odd depth and I'm not sure how to do it to the counter so it fills up that space completely and looks good from both sides? Hm... I wonder if I could do a floor to ceiling? I just doesn't seem it would have the same effect as the wall bumpout, somehow... I might have to at least play around with that. And, about the garbage under the sink... I've been pondering it. But I do a ton of prep work at my sink - not to mention rinsing out recyclables. The thought of having to pull away from the only sink so someone can use the garbage isn't thrilling me. I haven't had space for garbage in my current sink. If you had asked me the ONE thing I would love in a new kitchen, I would have said 'room for garbage'. Oh, the irony! Have I missed your unveiling? It sure looks like that is a lived in kitchen! It's looking great! Palimpsest - The details on each side of the sink are just 3 inch fillers from the virtual design program I am using. I have 2 on each side to reserve space for pullouts on each side of the sink - but don't intend to do fancy moulding on them in real life. Would it be inconsistent with this house to have those half-legs on each side of the sink? Better to keep it to just flat panels? I hear what you are saying about the glass doors over the sink. I'm drawn to them because they echo the white french doors that lead into the den from the room with the front door. I'm having a hard time letting them go - how strong is this recommendation? Lol The ultimate problem here in the end is the darn layout on the lowers. I can easily fit in what I need IF I forego symmetry on the back wall. Otherwise, I a) can't have drawers on each side of the stove like I want or b) have to give up a garbage slideout or a corner cabinet for the appliances. I really like the idea of garbage on one side of the sink and DW on the other. But, I can't find the room unless I put a blind corner into the stove area, which ruins the symmetry on THAT wall while eliminating the option of drawers. Bleh. This kitchen really did not feel small until I went to redesign it......See MoreNew to Kitchens? Read Me First!
Comments (224)++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 11/27/2016: THIS THREAD IS NOW RETIRED. PLEASE DO NOT BUMP! CURRENT "READ ME" THREAD: http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/4306041/m=3/new-to-kitchens-read-me-first ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++...See MoreNew here but need layout help please!
Comments (62)In the "second to last" layout above.... (I really don't like how Houzz cannot seem to include the actual date/time a message was posted so you can refer to it later! Yet another big step back from GardenWeb! *sigh*) Be aware that you will have what we call a "black hole" in that corner where you have the refrigerator and narrow pantry cabinet. It will be made worse by the diagonal upper corner cabinet. FYI...the "narrow and deep pantry" isn't deep at all! The shelves were only 12" deep. It's up to you, of course, but I am concerned about the lack of useful storage and the lack of separation of the Cleanup Zone and Prep Zone. Honestly, I would not enjoy working in the tight quarters and lack of useful counterspace that I'm seeing in the latest layouts. In the last layout above... At least there's real separation b/w the Prep & Cleanup Zones, the DW is out of the Prep Zone, and you now have more prep space. Since you will be "zone crossing" to get to the refrigerator from both the Prep and Cooking Zones, be sure to have aisles at least 48" wide - measured correctly to/from the items sticking out into the aisles the farthest. Speaking of the refrigerator, in this last layout, the location is a non-starter if it's not a true "built-in" refrigerator. The doors on non-true built-in refrigerators must stick out past all adjacent items - cabinets, walls, etc. If the refrigerator is against a wall, for example, you will need anywhere from 6" to 12" b/w the refrigerator and wall to allow the doors to open fully without having to pull it out from the back wall. The amount of space you need will depend on how much deeper the wall is than the refrigerator box. In this case, you will need the full 12". Also, if the refrigerator is not a true built-in, its true depth will range from around 31" for a counter-depth to 36" for a standard-depth refrigerator. (Costs of refrigerators range from standard-depth as the least expensive, then counter-depth, and, finally, built-ins as the most expensive by far.) Pantry... I don't think you really have room for pantry cabinets since you now have an island. Cabinets are even deeper than the one I drew up. If it's no wider than 18" and is a pullout rather than a wider one with roll out tray shelves (ROTS) or stationary shelves, it can be useful. Any wider than 18" and you end up with shelves too deep to use effectively. In both designs, what is the size of the island? What are the aisle widths? How wide is the aisle behind the seats?...See MoreNew to Kitchens? Read Me First! - OBSOLETE
Comments (1088)Since I cannot get the new links to work, I changed the originating post to match what I put in the new Read Me thread. It will have to suffice for now. Still around 1.1K comments, but at least the main information is immediately visible without having to try to get to the first few comments. BTW...has anyone else seen that the comments are all jumbled up and that it's almost impossible to find the early comments? [I did submit a ticket to Support. Let's see if I have any better luck this time than in previous attempts.]...See MoreBuehl
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