What type of high heat cooking?

Have you looked at BlueStar? It has an uncapped burner so the flame is straight up which might be good if you cook with a Wok. You can have the burners placed in whatever position you like when you order your range

How do you plan on using the steam oven? Only you can decide if it is something you would use or not.

Wolf also makes an all gas range that does not have a blue liner so no chipping. Right or wrong, Wolf has a lot more recognition. I think there is a wide variation of service. They give excellent service for the two year warranty. After that, it varies quite a bit. Keep in mind that if you have to have a repair, you have to have their people so it is expensive and you are at their mercy.

I would agree with wekick here. Wolf would be my choice among the ones listed but I wouldn't rule out BlueStar, unless the steam oven is really a deal breaker for you.

I have been envied of open burner range availability for domestic indoor wok cooking, namely Capital and BlueStar in N.A. From looking at various source, especially on garden web, Capital and BlueStar burners have much better praise from people compared with Thermador.

After I have been living with just one Miele combi steam oven over a year, no other oven in the house, definitely I can say that it is worth the extra dough. However, I do use steam functionality a lot, daily, be it pure steam cooking, or combi cooking with steam. Miele and Wolf combi steam ovens are also much larger internally compared with Thermador.

So, my suggestion is to look at Capital and BlurStar for range, or range top, then pair it with combi steam oven on the wall from Miele or Wolf, and perhaps another pyro oven and warming drawer for range top option.

BlueStar Platinum has interchangeable griddle/broiler, so a smaller form factor 36" with six burners can be a good concession in space for combi steam oven on the wall.

I like Chanop's idea of rangetop paired with wall ovens. You haven't mentioned what your exhaust hood choice will be, but keep in mind the hood for a 48" range needs to be either 48" or 52" wide, and have the ductwork to match that size hood. You mentioned your "space constraints". Perhaps you would be better served with a 36" rangetop. Do you expect to use more than 6 burners at once in your cooking?

I just pulled this pic of the Bluestar 36" rangetop off the internet, it's not mine. It looks like the space under the rangetop is for open pots and pans storage. Me, I'd prefer that space to be drawers so less dust collecting.

Here is a pic of the Wolf 36" rangetop. Again, drawers are preferable to the cabinets shown under the rangetop:

Thanks everyone. I was actually originally planning on a range top plus wall ovens, but realized that I was sacrificing a pantry (that would get daily use) for ovens that we use maybe once a week. I agree that it's nice to have drawers right under the rangetop (I have this setup now), but this compromise is worth it for me. So I'm really only looking at ranges now. I have more than enough space on my "range" wall, it's the other two walls that are short (for frig and wall ovens).

Would love more input from 48" range owners, and especially on the Thermador steam!

After agonizing over similar decision, I went with the steam. Purchased but uninstalled. You get a good dw "free" so the price differential is less if you attach any value to that. If you could work in a Thermador fridge instead of the Sz you could get a "free" hood too. I don't think they have a 42" fridge so looking at 36" or some column combo.

Johnsoro...will you post a pic of your range please? I had a Wolf 48" in my last house and also got little use of the smaller over. But loved my separate steam oven and larger Wolf oven. The Thermador sounds interesting.

Also Johnsoro...my steam oven was a Gagg that was installed fairly high. I never worried about steam when I opened the door.

have you had any issues with steam and potential for burns with the steam oven in the range which is (of course) below counter? Or is it really just not an issue?

is the warming drawer big enough?

thank you!

Jennifer...I am planning a kitchen in a new build and trying to figure out appliances as well. I was really only considering Wolf/SZ because of past experience and local service issues.

an acquaintance recently finished a new home and did a beautiful kitchen and used all Thermador appliances. She loves her appliances. I have to say it's making me look at this brand as well. The 48" pro with steam and convection is intriguing.

Ilovered- I certainly stand back when I open the steam door or I can imagine it would be a nice quick facial :) Happy to have the hood above to collect the steam- I think it's a great location for the oven. Alternatively, I would be fairly worried with a steam oven built in the cabinetry for above cabinet damage.

The warming drawer is small- 18 inches wide. I can fit one dinner plate and one smaller plate adjacent to each other, although I usually just have one plate in there.

I really love this range and am so glad I made the switch from Wolf.

Your kitchen looks very nice, johnsoro25.

Johnsoro...great looking range. That whole wall looks great.

Is the warming drawer big enough to hold a couple of 13x9 casserole dishes?

thanks.

The warming drawer could only hold one 13x9 casserole dish. I just measured- the actual hot surface measures 17.5x11.

Thank you.

Your range/kitchen look beautiful - thank you for sharing!

Johnsoro25, thanks for sharing. Do you use the griddle much? Would you go with the griddle option if you had to do it over again?

I would go with the griddle option again. I use it almost exclusively for breakfast foods, and I love not to have to store/get out my double griddle pan anymore. The other configurations would be 8 burners, which I definitely wouldn't need, or a grill, which I prefer to do outside.

The 48" thermador lets you swap out the grill and griddle pretty easily. The grill itself is like $300.

Thanks for the info.

I keep coming back to this thread and Johnsoro's Thermador Grand Pro.

I went to Thermador's website and it looks like it can be purchased easy enough. But when I click the tab for servicers...nada, nothing, within 100 miles (which is as far as their rich parameter allows).

Is this brand really that hard to service?

I have 3 places that service, furthest is 13 miles away. I guess it just depends on where you live. Luckily, I haven't needed service yet.

Any updates on the thermador quality and service? I want to buy the 48 inch range and fridge but have read some seriously negative reviews and looking to see what other owners are saying about the thermador suite.

I too am struggling, I was planning the wolf but I guess it’s on such a back order that I have to choose another option. Leaning to the thermador 48 inch pro grand with steam. I will use the steam. But I too see the same service issues /not working reviews. In the scheme of things there are not many but oh boy if you are the one to get a lemon! ?!?

I was considering the 42 inch built in french door Sub-Zero and the 36 inch Wolf gas range top, but am also struggling with the decision and would like to know what others are saying about the reliability today. Another consideration was the Thermador non-stick range top with the aluminum griddle.

Any good reviews on the thermador 48” range with steamer?

Our steam oven In the 48 inch model was leaking then stopped working. We finally had it replaced. New model came. And it leaks too! If you get that Thermador with the steam I don’t think that steam oven will last. They could never figure out how to stop the leak to replaced it. Needless to say we aren’t pleased the new model leaks too. Very frustrating with what seems to be faulty engineering.