Landscape drainage problem
Carebear3117
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Very Large Landscape Design & Drainage Issues
Comments (19)This thread spiraled more into a drainage thread instead of landscape, which is alright with me. I really like the my latest design (listed below).. yeah it has pathways and may not be for everyone... but I like it. I have a few other completed beds with the same pathways and I really like the look. pls8 - The land all kind of slopes towards this "wet area" I have listed below. It rained 3" last week. Today just 3 days later and all the water has soaked in. The ground is still squishy in spots, but no standing water. I mowed yesterday... in the "Wet Area" I had marked below, the mower made a mess. In the other areas it didn't. You can stand in this wet area and see the land slightly slope towards it. After I mowed, you could actually see where this wet area was because of the mud streaks. I spent a few hours after I mowed yesterday studying the land and where everything sloped. I cut it short just so I can see exactly where this land slopes and now it looks more clear. Below is an image of what I found. You can see the two wet areas. The one at the top of the image is an empty field that always has standing water. Here are my thoughts after I evaluated it: 1. The bed I have that's almost flat on the left. After I raise & slope this entire bed, it'll not only prevent the neighbors runoff onto my land, but give them some of my run off. 2. When I raise the other beds, It'll just allow the runoff to accumulate faster in the two wet areas. Preferably that brush/field behind my lot that always has standing water and is more like a swamp. 3. I only have a few pathways in this design that water may accumulate, which I don't think it will. If for some reason it does, I don't see why I couldn't just create a few small swales like I mentioned above. Just a small indent maybe an inch deep x a foot wide or something to carry the water away into the wet/wooded area. After I get the 300 yards of dirt out here, I plan on getting prices to have it spread... perhaps I could also get a price on regrading. Just by looking at my current yard, I don't think regrading will solve the problem. It's to large and you would essentially need to create a pond or deep hole at one end to get enough slope. That would equal $$,$$$. By just adding soil and sloping it, I'm just recreating what's already in parts of my yard. My front yard, side yard, and half of my back yard is built up... you can see it slightly arch in the center and slope off to lower points where it gets a little soggy. My field is "Flat", it does slope some, but it doesn't have that arch if you know what I'm talking about. I do have a few places in my field that slightly arch and it's as dry as can be. I think building my beds higher than the surrounding soil, slope them away from my property, will solve my problem without the need to regrade. This post was......See MoreLandscape for drainage - narrow lot
Comments (8)hmmm...scrapndoodle, I think you have my old house! Fortunately, due to a divorce I was forced to sell it, thus solving the problem! (for me, at least.) I am partially kidding, I did have a house with basically the same problem. The repair is quite a tear-out and requires a re-do of sill and part of wall. During that mess, I would consider extending the foundation high enough that it did not permit rot of sill and wall in the future...of course, with all the proper waterproofing, etc. How can I be delicate about this?....by all means, I am not suggesting in any way, shape or form that you create an unpleasant situation/relationship with your nearby neighbor. But it looks like you have a zero lot line situation and therefore sometimes things require some cooperation between neighbors. You may have legal rights that you're unaware of, but that come into play in this type of situation. Whether you need to assert your rights (if you have them) is an entirely different question than what I'm addressing. But I would be looking at this problem as though I could get some kind of cooperation (hopefully completely voluntary) from my neighbor. I question whether they are permitted to block drainage from your patio. One fact is that your patio must drain somewhere. As your house looks to be on the pline, the ONLY place you can drain is in that narrow strip you're calling the neighbor's planter bed. Where is the back yard of the neighbor on the other side (above) of your property draining? I'm going to guess right down the middle of the 28" wide strip between the houses. One way or the other you have to find out which side of you're house you're legally entitled to drain and then base your plans on that. Sometimes one must become very creative when solving these problems. And the best solution may depend on MANY factors. As others have pointed out before me, you may have other things (gutters & downspouts, etc.) that may be part of the problem. If at all possible, I would keep drainage on top of ground rather than in a pipe. Maintenance is easier and failure is minimized. What's happening to elevation at the front of the lot. is there room to bury a pipe and have it empty into the front yard? If storm water needs to go into a pipe, what's your soil like...full of rocks...tree roots, or not. Is it difficult to dig? Boring, while it sounds major, might be one of the easier ways to install a pipe. (I've only personal experience with boring for small diameter pipe, but it was MUCH EASIER than I thought it would be....See MoreLawn Drainage Problems - Getting Water in our Basement
Comments (3)flashing that will come up the 4" of cement and slightly overlap the siding so that we can use fill to pitch dirt away from the house...opening ourselves up to an insect (termite) problem or any other problems? Yes. remove the lower rows of siding, and then to do a moisture barrier, lath and cement over the exterior wood down to the foundation cement That will look hideous, especially on a new home. Plus, depending on the permeability of the barrier, it will inhibit drying of the wall. Neither of these "solutions" does anything to remove water from the saturated soil which is caused or exacerbated by the reverse grading. You can't cure the fact that the house should have been further out of the ground to start with and graded better. (To avoid this kind of problem, all new homes built in my municipality are required to conform to an independent professional drainage plan.) And, of course, the foundation should have had at least a dimpled plastic barrier. The builder clearly knew the water problem, as indicated by his installation of interior drainage tiles. Unfortunately, the only sure fix at this point is excavation and true waterproofing. As I see it, there should be some liability on the part of the builder for delivering you a home with a leaky basement. I hope you have consulted with a lawyer on this. In Ontario, where I build, all new homes have to be enrolled in a mandatory warranty programme (Tarion) that requires the builder to rectify all water leakage problems for two years. If the builder does not do so, the Programme itself repairs the damage....See MoreDrainage problems and drainage tiles
Comments (0)Whether a house sits on a hillside or on level ground, you must first of all slant the soil to lead the water away from the house. There are three kinds of tiles: Above ground drainage tiles lead rain water away from the house on top of the ground, e.g. the water coming from the roof. Below ground drainage tiles are installed about 2 to 4 below the surface. They are a 4 to 8" perforated plastic pipes which travel across fields at intervals, conducting surplus water into a ditch or county drain. Weeping tiles are in the ground under the house and lead the ground water into the sewer. Without weeping tiles the ground water pressure would lift the foundation. Another hint: Never build a concrete sidewalk next to a building. You will need to tear it up whenever you raise the settling soil around the building. Use blocks instead which are light enough to be picked up. If you have a surplus water, you might consider creating a pond into which you could lead the water from the drainage tiles....See MoreCarebear3117
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