Draining or Reducing water when cooking ground beef
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Comments (9)Happy Holidays, to Chris and Kim. I appreciate Kim's experience and logic. My neighbor ordered a big pile of dirt mixed with mushroom compost (horse manure & brown bedding). I tested the pH of his dirt, it's slightly less blue in red cabbage juice than mine (pH 7.7). At first he got the darkest green lawn in the neighborhood. But his lawn looked worst when there's hot weather and no rain, thanks to the salt content. Mike_Rivers, a retired chemist, mentioned that horse manure is 1/4 the salt of other manures, with chicken manure the highest (per University of Colorado's data). I thought I could turn my azaleas and rhododrendrons dark-green by using acid fertilizer Lilly Miller 10-5-4 with chicken manure, but I killed 2 rhodos by using it 3 times: 10+10+10 equals 30 in Nitrogen, that's much higher than the 0.7 nitrogen per horse manure application. Sulfur is useless in turning my acid-plants dark green, it's the chelated iron that does the job. I tested Espoma garden sulfur on my acid plants, and they are still yellow. For salt content, most damaging is urea and ammonium nitrate, around 80% salt index, it's like dumping a cup of salt on your rose bush. The lowest in nitrogen is anhydrous ammonia at 47%, but I don't see listed anywhere. Phosphorus: superphosphate is lowest in salt, at 7.8, and triple superphosphate at 10. For potassium, monopotassium phosphate (52% P and 35% K), has lowest salt at 8.4, and potassium chloride, use to de-ice in cold zone is a killer with 116.2%. For organic sources, grass clippings, alfalfa, leaves are lowest, then blood meal, then horse manure, cow manure, and highest salt is chicken manure (also highest in nitrogen). Here is a link that might be useful: University of Illinois data on salt index...See MoreFavorite ground beef recipes?
Comments (30)Stuffed Cabbage Rolls, one of my favorites! STUFFED CABBAGE ROLLS 1 small whole Green Cabbage 2 tablespoons Butter 1 pound Ground Pork 1 pound Ground Beef Salt and Pepper to taste 1 Cup Chopped Onion 4 Cloves Garlic, minced 2 Cups Cooked Long Grain Rice 1 Egg � Cup Chopped Parsley 2 15 ounce cans of Stewed Tomatoes 1 5ounce can Tomato Sauce Bring a large pot of water to a boil. Core the Cabbage and place the whole head into the boiling water, core side up. Remove the individual leaves with tongs as they cook, and put them into a colander to cool and drain. Remove as many as you can. Set the remaining head aside to cool and drain. Melt the Butter in a saut� pan, and add the Ground Pork, Ground Beef, Onion and Garlic, and saut� until the meat is completely cooked. Remove from heat and cool slightly. Place all in a large mixing bowl, add the Egg, Rice, Parsley and Salt and Pepper, and stir gently to combine. Place approx. � cup of the meat mixture at the base of the Cabbage Leaf and roll tightly, folding in the sides as you go. Place in a deep stockpot, layering closely. Chop the remaining head of Cabbage and distribute between the layers. Pour one can of Stewed Tomatoes over the first Layer. When all the Filling and Cabbage Leaves are used, pour on the second can of Stewed Tomatoes. Be sure there is plenty of headroom in the pot as the rolls expand as they cook. Bring the pot to a boil and reduce heat to a simmer, cover and simmer for an hour, checking the liquid level frequently, adding Water or Tomato Juice if necessary. After the first half hour pour the Tomato Sauce over the Rolls. Finish cooking. Remove to a large platter and cover to keep warm. Increase the heat to medium and stir the pot until the sauce has thickened. Taste to correct seasonings, and serve the Sauce on the side. These are definitely better reheated the next day. Steve...See MoreHow best to cook a 13 lb. Beef Loin Strip Roast?
Comments (11)For Christmas Eve I made a 12 lb loin of beef. I have so much stuff going on that I bought a digital therm with a probe and program it to the proper temp, it beeps when it's done so I don't forget about the beef. I cut the beef in half to make it a little easier to handle and used Ina Gartens recipe. 1 (4 to 5 pound) fillet of beef, trimmed and tied 2 tablespoons unsalted butter, at room temperature 1 tablespoon kosher salt 1 tablespoon coarsely ground black pepper Preheat the oven to 500 degrees F. Place the beef on a sheet pan and pat the outside dry with a paper towel. Spread the butter on with your hands. Sprinkle evenly with the salt and pepper. Roast in the oven for exactly 22 minutes for rare and 25 minutes for medium-rare. Remove the beef from the oven, cover it tightly with aluminum foil, and allow it to rest at room temperature for 20 minutes. Remove the strings and slice the fillet thickly. Note: Be sure your oven is very clean or the high temperature will cause it to smoke....See MoreSpatula contamination worries when cooking ground beef?
Comments (52)"Perhaps that is your experience, certainly not mine." What I'm saying is that your testimonials about people not getting sick from unsafe food handing and storage are not scientifically valid. No testimonials are. The WHO has done studies, including the one I mentioned previously, about the burden of foodborne illnesses in various regions of the world. They, and multiple other researchers, state that foodborne illness is a significant problem in China, Japan, and surrounding areas. They state that food handing and storage are a major factor in foodborne illnesses. I didn't mention anything about MY personal experiences because testimonials aren't scientifically valid. If you want to know, just for fun, about my personal experiences, we had a family friend who died of liver flukes that he picked up from eating improperly prepared food in one of the areas you stated was a place where they care less about food safety and so you believe the people there are healthier. Your friend at the Rockefeller center was obviously giving you a simplistic explanation about how vaccines work. I completely disagree that food safety practices in the US are excessive. There are an incredible number of cases of foodborne illness that occur each year in the US. It is well-known that the vast majority of them are not reported. You are entitled to your opinions. But, your opinions are just that and they are not at all in line with what the science actually tells us. I do not intend to get into a protracted discussion with you. I just don't have the time, inclination, or energy. I also doubt that you are open to anything I would say, anyway. I actually never thought YOU would listen. I've said what I wanted to say, and I said it so that other people here can read what I wrote and then think about things...I just could not leave your pseudoscientific statements to be unchallenged....See MoreUser
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