Rental with no gutters - ground cover for bed receiving roof drainage
Leighann Dorough
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Comments (4)Why no gutters? I am seeing a lot more of this lately and I am not sure what's behind this trend. Any type of overhanging eaves without a gutter system will produce a very distinct drip line and depending on your climate, can cause drainage issues in the immediate area as well as problems with snow and ice in winter. The short answer is that even groundcovers will not be happy with a constant (or very regular) dripping of rainwater from the roof line and generally develop less healthy, thinned growth or even die out along this line. Larger plants, if thoughtfully selected, can often withstand this activity much better, but my first choice would be for a gutter system and avoid the problem entirely. Although the NW has a reputation for being a wet climate, our rainfall tends to be very light - more of a mist or prolonged drizzle, sometimes lasting months :-) Certainly not the downpours or gully washers that are common elsewhere. And even with our normal light type of rain, driplines from gutterless roofs are distinct and unsightly and difficult to disguise....See MoreIn-ground garden beds possible?
Comments (18)Thanks for all the ideas and advice. I really don't like the look of raised beds, and don't like the expense/extra heat/evaporation issues either. But maybe they would be something to consider in the areas near the tree roots, and then maybe do in-ground beds in front so we can do both. Fascist_Nation, you have given me a lot to think about. We had/have all the irrigation on a daily timer. So I'm guessing the bed got watered too frequently and not deeply enough. It just doesn't seem like that's possible, but I guess it is what it is. I never actually tested it, and then when I was going to see how long the irrigation needed to be on for it be water all the way down, that's when I discovered the entire bed was tree roots. So I haven't managed to find the answer to that yet, but you can bet I will before I start planting in whatever new beds we end up with. I did add composted manure and peat every year -- is that not enough as far as replenishing nutrients? And I'm a little confused about root depth.... If I do in-ground beds there, I'd need to create a barrier (you recommended concrete) to keep the tree roots out. If I do a concrete slab down to 4 ft and then dig the beds 2 ft deep and line them with landscaping cloth, that will keep the tree roots out? For how long? And how well does that cloth really work? The tree roots I found in the bed were very fine, and at first I thought they were leftovers from my veggies of past seasons. Then I found the mother root and realized the tangled knot that was my garden soil was all tree root. We have landscaping fabric underneath the red rocks all over the yard and we do still get weeds coming through it, so I have a hard time believing that the mesquite roots won't penetrate that. (Although I know the concrete will buy us some time.) Wouldn't the tree roots just grow down and then under the concrete and come back up for water in the garden bed? The drainage pebbles are relatively useless right now (they were just for decoration, apparently -- previous owners put that in) but we are planning to redirect the gutters and drainage to the beds....See Morerunning gutter drainage underground
Comments (33)Ive lived in my house for 20 years and probably had a handful of times water would appear in the basement. I knew something also was wrong with a plumbing issue but couldn't afford to have someone do the work. Finally in 2007, I had my plumbing looked at and 15,000 dollars later my pipes were replaced and a new bathroom renovated. I mentioned to the plumbers about the random water in the basement where they were working and didn't see anything underground. I also had my driveway paved and made sure they slanted away from house and they put a drain to connect downstairs. Then I found my downstairs downspout was clogged and I found out I had an empty septic tank. I was running out of money so I hired a contractor do unplug the spouts and replace the pipe underground while he filled the abandoned septic. Then came the fall and the rain and after heavy rainfall the water flooded my basement. The brand new carpet that I finally could afford was soaked and it continued to run into my house for the next 5 hours. I was devastated and heartbroken. I went outside in pouring rain at midnight and dug a trench to get the water from my house. no problems in 2009 so I thought I did some good. Wrong I had my basement flood twice in 2010. the water outside the house is not higher than my base of house, the water comes up from undergroud through any little crack in cement floor. My kids and boyfriend have helped me soak the water up and been luck we were home at the time. But oh so tiring. So far I think we've saved the walls from mold. Anyway, my question is-if we dig a hole near the base of the house will the water go there instead of my basement is it something we can do ourselves? I am out of money and out of ideas and I've got to save my home. The basement is like a apartment and my two boys live down there. This house is all I have. oh my gosh sorry this is so long I guess I needed to vent. Ive talk to city officials plumbers and water guys but they are not sure where the water is coming from....See MoreNeed help with rain drainage
Comments (8)Punt???? Just kidding. Chances are the disappearing pipes terminate in one or more beds of gravel,french drains of sorts. Being at the top of a hill lend's itself to "day lighting"all the drains unless something like a building or swimming pool is in the way of some. The options as I see them are. A. Stand where pipe in question disappears then decide which direction it look's to be headed ( might even dig up a few feet). Decide if there's a clear path to low ground nearby then search that area. A T shaped probe desighned to locate sewer lines is available. Just push it into earth feeling for resistance of underground pipe. You might dig up a few rocks and old shoes before finding pipe but success awaits. B. If grade look's to make day lighting unlikly,probe nearby for french drain. C. Out of necessity irrigation/lawn sprinkler companies are pretty good at tracing plastic water pipe,a 4" pipe should be easy. If there's a wire wrapped around pipe,that's to assist location of non-matalic pipe under ground. D. Install drain new lines and/or french drains....See MoreLeighann Dorough
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