Clotilde Soupert, so excited!
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Comments (14)I decided on LULLABY (Polyantha, 1953) which has the most exquisite quartered little pure white blossoms with emerald green button eyes that remind me of a miniature Madame Hardy. I've actually grown this rose before. I shoveled pruned two of them years ago because their blossoms were only slightly fragrant, and replaced them with Clotilde. Well after years of putting up with mummified foliage I'm going back to the old standbys. I don't use these roses for cut flowers so the slight fragrance isn't an issue anymore. I decided against Marie Pavie and White Pet for different reasons. I have a cottage garden and prefer roses with Old Garden Rose flower form (either globular, flattened rosette, or quartered), which fit in better with the garden design. Marie Pavie's buds are more high centered than I normally like. The mature blossoms are also rather formless and disheveled looking. As for White Pet the growth habit is a wee bit more low and spreading than the petite bushiness that I'm looking for in the typical Polyantha. Thanks also for the Floribunda and Shrub rose suggestions but I really need a Polyantha for the two spots in the front of the flower bed. The rest of my roses are big Austins and Bourbons. I like the contrast between the clusters of little rosettes on the Polyanthas with the luxurious decadence of the larger flowered cultivars. Here is a link that might be useful: Lullaby at HelpMeFind Roses...See MoreClotilde Soupert vs. Little White Pet
Comments (27)I've never had CS, but LWP, which I planted straight in the ground from a band, has been incredibly healthy and vigorous, with beautiful dark green foliage and blooms that began as soon as I put it in the ground. No disease, yellowing leaves or the slightest problem, and it is a lovely little bush. At this point the flowers are average in terms of beauty, but I think with so many at one time it would put on quite a show. The quality of the flowers may also improve, since this rose isn't even a year old (bought in March of this year). I've heard so many horror stories about CS in terms of balling and disease, that I doubt I'll ever be brave enough to try it. Ingrid...See MoreClimbing clotilde soupert doesn't climb!!!
Comments (12)I got my Cl. Clotilde Soupert from Robert, and it was propagated from the lovely example he speaks about above. In his garden, this rose is unbelievable. In my garden, it is exactly as the OP describes. Mine has just spent its fourth season in the same spot, which is a bit too shady for it to thrive, I believe. I get few flowers (it balls a bit in the spring) and it has shown no inclination to climb whatsoever. Each year, I feel I have to give it 'one more year'. My Climbing Dainty Bess also behaved like a shrub for the first two years of her life in my garden. She is planted in an ideal spot, on an arch in my Rose Field. She came from Sequoia Nursery, which had sent the wrong rose on occasion, so I figured I had another regular Dainty Bess in my collection. Toward the end of the second year, Ms. Bess decided it was finally time to climb, and she promptly shot a basal cane up and over the arch. She's been reaching for the sky ever since. Chamblees may have not sent you the wrong plant. It may be in a bad spot, or it could just be biding its time. Climbers are funny like that. Connie...See MoreHelp me move cl clotilde soupert
Comments (5)Lisa , it really can be so bad ! I almost wish the thing would die so I don't feel so guilty about it . It smells like heaven when it's doing well !...See More- 7 years ago
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