****Gas or Electric Oven?
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Comments (15)Howdy all. I'll introduce a couple elements that I personally think have a greater impact on consistent temp than either heat source, gas, or electric. Mass, and/or insulation. The "container" has as much to do with how heat is distributed or equalized across an area as the source of the heat. Pro ranges are 2-3 times heavier than residential ranges. More mass. They take longer to heat up, but will hold temp more consistently due to heat radiated from the mass of the container. Heat source is less relevant to actually achieving a temp. Mass equals more consistent temp. In a high mass oven, the walls radiate heat, along with the heat source. Convection fans accelerate the consistent heating of the mass. Recovery. Why hugely heavy stoves are used in resteraunts. More mass stores more heat, which equals less temp drop when the door is opened, quicker recovery, more consistent temp. Gas wins due to the simpler technology, lower cost long term, simplicity of implimentation. In the home, it's a draw. Discounting the steam/micro/halogen additions to our basic fuel ovens, gas or electric, not much has changed in the last 50 years. "Rant mode on" Why? We accept it. The cheapest home furnace thermostat holds a period variance of 2 degrees. We think it's normal that an oven varies by 25 degrees, and it's exceptional that an oven only varies by 7 degrees, such as the gagg. Stove/range designers have not touched the efficient implementations of available, commonly used fuel sources for home use. My guess is that nobody wants it. We are content, complacent. Air/oxygen induction could easily raise the efficiency of gas stoves by 15 percent, and raise the performance by an equal or better amount. I've yet to see an example, or even an exploration. Sorry folks, I'm just a bit pissed. I can't afford a 4,000.00 Bluestar. I've studied the design of other heating devices, primarily forges. The physics are the same. I don't know if I'm the only one that believes this, but guess what folks? We are getting screwed. The idea that what a pro kitchen needs means it's the best for a home kitchen is bunk. The idea that we should accept 1950's technology as state of the art is bunk. I love cooking on gas, but it's been left as a backwater, with only changes in form, not function. And yes, Im jealous of those able to drop 4,000.00 on a range. Look at the physics, and all present ranges make little sense in the home. I think it's time to head for the garage. "Rant mode off" Mark...See MoreGas or Electric oven
Comments (6)Rockpig, Based on your response, from a pure cooking performance perspective I would go with gas since it sounds like you cooking meats and vegetables and they benefit from the moist heat of a gas oven. This of course assumes that you either have the appropriate utility in place or will be making provisions to add it if not. Convection will be an adjustment if you have not used it before, nothing earth shaking, just different. I like my cooking to be a little more primitive and do my oven cooking in a brick oven (see link below). My 60" Bluestar rangetop fights for equal time with my 72" stone cooking hearth. None of the above are very high tech and some require skill and patience to get a desirable result - that patience and skill is sumptuously rewarded. Cookies be damned, if cooking doesn't figure high on your list of ways to spend a day I would stick with electric because that is what most people are familiar with and many home recipes are written in mind with, also, the self clean is set and forget. This is not to say that gas is difficult but I'd say it's one of those things that unless you love cooking and cooking certain things, it probably doesn't matter and you probably won't care enough to make learning and living with the differences worth it to you. The purists view of the kitchen is different from the utilitarian or cosmetic view. The choices are all about who you are as a cook. Some people wonder why I would split wood, nurse a fire and labor in front of a hot stone hearth for hours, spinning a chicken on twine and pulling charred onions from the embers when I could cook the food on a glass top with an electric oven with the all wipe clean, self clean convenience of the modern age. The answer is I have more patience for tinkering and physical discomfort than many but I am commensurately rewarded for the effort in the quality and character of the food. A gas oven will get you closer to that primitive, visceral, organic lure and theater of the flame but still falls short of the brick oven or the hearth. Get what's right for you in your situation but do be open to the magic that can be had if you are so inclined as to put forth the effort. If you do go gas I would highly consider Bluestar - amazing broiler, great oven and none of the clap-trap gadgetry that pervades and diminishes most appliances on the market today. Best of luck in your choice. Here is a link that might be useful: Forno Bravo Artigiano Authentic Wodd Fired Oven...See Moregas vs electric ovens??
Comments (14)Your 200A service should be fine to run a wall oven. The oven will need 220V (volts, not amps). Easiest way to explain it is ... You know how the plug for your dryer looks different than plugs for the fridge or lamps? An electric dryer also uses 220V, and those require different outlets with different wiring. It sounds like you have that in place already, so it would be cheapest to stay with that. If you have a gas range and electric wall oven you have the best of both worlds, IMHO. But, if you want a gas range you just need to hire a plumber to run a gas line over to it. I don't think you can tee off the line to the range, you would probably need a new line from where gas comes into the house. But I could be wrong on that!...See MoreDo you really notice a difference between gas and electric ovens?
Comments (9)The supposed difference in moisture can be argued both ways but it's not a big enough difference to be greater than you'd find switching between ovens. Each oven has quirks that must be learned, even the very finest ones. Some asthmatics shouldn't be around natural gas combustion, and that's the worst thing I know about gas. The big deal for baking with an electric oven, as far as I'm concerned, is that some are much more accurate than most gas ovens. I have what is probably the most accurate (and pricey) home oven available (Gaggenau). Accuracy is important to me. When I'm doing production (for family, not pay) I really appreciate knowing that tray after tray, day after day, will be baked for the same amount of time and come out exactly the same without checking or minding or any of those normal things. Some electric ovens are just awful, however. Few gas ovens are awful because they're simple. They heat up. They might have a fan. That's it. I had an awful gas oven that came with the house that was probably just fine when it was new. I still managed just about everything short of souffle because even awful ovens aren't impossible (it had no temperature control so it was whatever it felt like doing, and different parts of the oven were different temperatures). Anyway, my advice is to get the best oven you can and not worry much about which fuel....See More- 10 years ago
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