Those fruit look like quince.

There are hundreds and hundreds of apple varieties. Identifying a specific one from a photo of unripe fruit is not possible. Fully ripe fruit could narrow things down a bit, but probably not to a specific variety.

Where is growing geographically? That could cut the possibilities down from 1000s to 100s.

It's a quince. EDIT: wrong. Apple. My bad.

Dax

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I do not believe it is a quince. Wrong leaves, no bloom and different blossom end. It's a dead ringer for an immature Grenadier or Bramley but that isn't necessarily what it is. Note the scale compared with the leaves. The fruit are still tiny.

BTW, Martin the height of the tree is governed by the root stock and doesn't tell us what kind of apple it is.

Hi, thanks for all your answers, the black stuff is just temporary to stop the weeds growing where we have de-weeded, but it does let water through. Thanks, I had a look at quince and they are very yellow, these are very green. Very new to this as we took on this allotment plot only a month ago, so pretty clueless at the moment!

OK - the word allotment finally gives us a location. The apple (and it is 100% not a quince, even an unripe one) is still very small and until it is fully grown it is pretty much impossible to id it. You could take a sample along to your local Apple Day which is usually 21st October. It is likely to be a common cultivar given its age and position.

The weed block is fine for keeping the plot from getting overgrown while you are clearing it. I used the same technique with my overgrown plot when I took it over 20 pus years ago. Just don't leave it down long term. Weeds will start to grow on top of it and you'll have terrible trouble getting it up again.

Good luck with the allotment. My only real piece of advice would be to just do the next job, don't look at how much more there is to deal with - and be patient. GW is primarily used by growers in the US and their climates, crops, pests and techniques can be very different from ours so make sure you get UK specific information. But it is still a friendly and interesting site.

frankly i doubt you will ever affirmatively find a name ... odds are low ... unless its a well known type ....

all you can do.. is wait until they are ripe .... and taste them.. and decide if the fruit is worthy of using the space it takes ...

as with everything with trees.. you discover things in tree time.. which can take years..

to grow apples that look like the ones you see in stores.. there is a complicated spray schedule .. which may or may not be worth the effort...that is why i gave up fruit farming.. long ago ... on the other hand.. if you dont mind a bit of ugly, otherwise edible apples.. go for it ... you can always use them to feed your horse ... lol ... which are probably kept on your other allotment .. lol ..

what flora said.. about keying in on peeps more in your area .. but dont abandon us... i love the international flavor of talking with everyone ....i will try to help ...

ken

I did an apple identification course a few years ago - it was hugely illuminating just how many defining characteristics are considered - from the shape of the fruit crown to the condition and feel of the skin. With a reasonable database, I could fairly confidently predict being able to identify apple types, particularly if local context is taken into consideration. Apple days usually will have someone at hand who can indeed help with the variety...it is essential to take along several mature fruit and definitely not the largest (king apple) in any spur cluster.

Incidentally, that looks to be a well-tended and nicely balanced specimen, probably at full growth on an M9 - or even the very dwarfing M25 rootstock...Some judicious winter pruning to thin out the crown and you are set fair for many years of apples.

I just reread my post and it might have sounded as if I was talking about the tree when I said "the apple ... is still very small and until it is fully grown it is pretty much impossible to id it." I meant the fruit is still very small. As Campanula says the tree looks just as it should.

Here one like this would have a good probability of being 'Yellow Transparent'. Otherwise orchard apples are identified by looking at multiple different examples of the fruits, including some that are cut in half to expose the interior. And noting features such as aroma, juiciness and flavor that must be checked in person.

Campanula might put me right but I don't believe Yellow Transparent is at all widely grown in the UK. So that id would be unlikely.

The best chance of getting it identified is for the OP to take some samples along to an Apple Day in October. Unfortunately the National Fruit Collection's identification service seems to have disappeared. Their website now says page not found. But you could email the National Fruit Collection and enquire.

I think your initial suggestion of a Bramley is on the nose, Flora, looking at that defined ridged basin. If the skin has a greasy feel, it is another useful indicator. It is well worth making an attempt at identification, if only to ensure pollination partners are nearby (in Bramley's case, that means another 2 varieties).

It can also be a good idea to contact a fruit nursery such as Chris Bowers or Reads...or local groups (mine are EEOAP - Eastern England Orchard and Apple Project) who will often keep local databases - the geographical area is often pertinent in making an identification.