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Mushroom compost, kraal manure or chicken manure?
Comments (14)Dear Trish! Ouch!!!! I can just see the whole event happening in front of my eyes! Yes, kids can get into the the most interesting situations at times. This little lady also broke her ankle on a swing at school about seven months ago, just a few days before her fourth birthday. So it was the whole process of rushing to hospital and dropping her three-month old baby sister and my eldest off at someone's house along the way while at the same time trying to comfort her and keep all calm. At that time my husband was gone for work so it was quite a challenge. After the whole stint in hospital, we had to carry her around for the whole time while she was recovering as she could not mobilize with crutches (too young ). In the end, she got so frustrated and she started to bum-shuffle, which was hilarious. :-) I found her one day trying to water my pots outside while still shuffling on her hands and buttocks, dragging the hose behind her :-) :-) :-) At least it is a bit easier this time around (that is, after surgery and the visits to the wound care nurse to clean the finger), and I know she is getting better the moment she starts watering the garden, which she has :-). She has a great affinity for soil and dirt and I must just try to keep her away in order to keep the finger clean until it has healed appropriately. Easier said than done :-) Moses and Lisa, I had a good laugh about your initial confusion about the word "kraal" My apologies! One tends to forget that local vernacular is not always known internationally. But well done on your investigations! Lisa, If I remember correctly you also have some Dutch heritage? I initially thought "kraal" might have had its origins in Dutch (where Afrikaans originated) but after reading your posts it struck me that the word might have come from the Koisan or other indigenous African languages - it indeed refers to an enclosure for cattle although, in centuries past, I think it was also used to refer to an area where groups of dwellings of particular tribes were constructed in a circular pattern which were then closed off with thorny branches etc. in order to keep wild animals out. We have so many languages over here and we all eventually "borrow" words from each other so "kraal" is an accepted English word here as it is in Afrikaans (our home language) and several other languages as well :-). One tends to forget that it is not necessarily known internationally. Moses, I think our mushroom compost might be similar to yours although I believe (I stand to be corrected) that we use coir peat instead of peat moss, which is not such a sustainable resource over here. We also have mushroom growers, possibly in greenhouses? They are readily available in our supermarkets although prices can be slightly more expensive at times. I used peat moss for my roses the previous time I amended some garden beds but was not satisfied with the soil quality a year later, that's why I considered the "kraal manure" Thanks to all of you I think I might get the recipe better this time. I really can't wait to get all my roses in the ground. The previous time was a bit easier as I had to start from scratch so I could design everything as I wanted. This time we have moved into a much bigger but older house with a large established garden (although not a single rose apart from 5 iceberg tree roses (we call them standard roses) at the gate. There are many trees providing lots of shade and it is a bit more daunting to think what must be moved / removed/ altered as there is already a basic plan and I don't want to simply redo the whole place right now. :-)...See MoreComposting chicken manure wuestiom
Comments (7)I agree with toxcrusadr that it is most likely some fungus, mold or actinomycetes. I have definitely had the characteristic white-ish looking stuff from actinomycetes on somewhat drier fibrous material like cardboard (which I'd say looks more like mycelia but can be a bit powdery). After a while, the cardboard would crumble easily in the hand, i.e. it was being decomposed thoroughly, and have a very distinctive earthy smell, more acute when damp. (I believe I read that actinomycetes are one of the sources of the chemical geosmin, which literally is 'earth smell.') Some of the white stuff would look powdery especially after turning or disturbing the pile. (Note one shouldn't breathe dust etc from compost into lungs, esp if shaky immune system/immune compromised, but smelling carefully probably okay). Anyway, whatever it is, almost certainly just a normal part of decomposition. Some fungi and other decomposers prefer damp/wet, some prefer dry, some hot, some cool, etc., so pretty normal to see some variation - conditions in the pile will also vary from layer to layer and further in/on surface. All those denizens of the pile also have their own reproduction methods and ways to spread/move through the pile to the food and conditions they want, and that can make things look different....See Morechicken manure tomatoes
Comments (5)I have about 10 feed sacks of henhouse clean out I got from my folks. I initially intended to use it to get some Japanese tomato rings going, but since it’s late in the year, I may just put a bunch in a row between my rows of tomatoes and cover it with wood chips as I mulch the entire bed. I’ve had good results in the past with no indication of the hot manure causing problems....See MoreTo treat Downy Mldew-is chicken manure be effective as horse manure?
Comments (22)I bought 3 kinds on Amazon and 1 from Armstrong Nursery. My two favorites from Amazon were MycoBloom and MycoBliss. MycoBloom (2lbs, ~3.5 cups or 56 Tablespoons and should use 1-3 T per plant) includes fungal species isolated by researchers at Indiana University and seller answers question of which species in their mix and it’s these 7: Claroideoglomus claroideum (formerly known as Glomus claroideum), Funneliformus mosseae (formerly known as Glomus mosseae), Cetraspora pellucida, Claroideoglomus lamellosum, Acaulospora spinosa, Racocetra fulgida and Entrophospora infrequens. MycoBliss (1lb, treats 100 plants) is the other I liked and it includes 4 different species of Rhizophagus and 1 Claroideoglomus etunicatum. Notice that none of the species in these two products, MycoBloom and MycoBliss, are the same so I used both to get a total of 11 species. I like these two since they come with carrier clay powder so you can sprinkle a spoonful, which is easy to manage than mixing a concentrated powder with water, at least for me. The 3rd brand, Wildroot Organic Mycorrhizal Fungi, came as a 1 oz concentrated packet to mix into 50 gallons of water and pour on plants. However, 1/50th of an ounce, to make one gallon, is really just a pinch. I haven’t tried it yet since sprinkling the others directly onto/in soil seemed easier. But Wildroot Organic has more microbial diversity (ie. more species) and includes fungi and bacteria and seems like a high quality product. It includes 100,000 Propagules/lb Glomus Intraradices, G. G. mosseae, G. aggregatum, G. etunicatum, G. clarum, G. deserticola G. monosporum, Paraglomus brasilianum and Gigaspora margarita. 120 million propagules/lb Rhizopogon villosulus, R. lutcolus, R. amylopogon, R. fulvigleba Pisolithus tinctorius Scleroderma cepa and S. citrinum. 10 billion CFU/lb Bacillus subtilis, B. licheniformis, B. pumilus, B. amyloliquefaciens, and B. megaterium and B. thuringiensis. 500 million/lb. Trichoderma harzianum and Trichoderma koningii. Finally, I grabbed a bag of organic rose food at Armstrong Nursery that also includes mycorrhizae that I will use later in the season. All these products say not to use at the same time as synthetic fertilizers, especially phosphorus. Once microbes are established I am sure dilute synthetic fertilizers are fine but the microbes will be more delicate until they are established in the root zone. Also store in a cool dry place and use within a year, or so. As time goes on their freshness will be less since these are dormant, yet living, organisms....See Morestrawchicago z5
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