Blue Chinese Wisteria Tree landscape design project
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Comments (19)enailes, good call--we actually planted 27 spruces last fall throughout the property, including about 10 blue spruce and the rest norways. That cost a mint since we bought 8-footers and had them professionally planted, but we really needed them after removing generations worth of overgrown and neglected trees. We do have plans for more evergreens, including a dwarf (Globosa?) blue spruce in front of a stone wall, etc. They're just not shown in these images, but that's just because we have a lot of ground to cover! We haven't really planned for much evergreen foliage in the second photo because that side of the house isn't really visible unless you're actually using the outdoor spaces. The first photo has a huge Norway on the far left and then several more between the house and barn (out of frame). Also in the first photo, the largest foundation plants are evergreens. I am a big fan of grasses, though, and may very well add in some tall ornamental grasses in the second view, just for added winter interest. Thanks! karinl, I see your point about the term evergreen. I have pretty much decided against the vinca for all the reasons everyone has pointed out; now I'm giving this some more thought. I definitely don't want hostas, that much I know...alchemilla is a good thought though I was hoping for something slightly flatter to the ground for that layer (and I don't want yellow). Not crazy about ferns either, just in general, though of course I do have a full shade bed that is stocked with some ferns. Hmmm. This is a tough one. You sort of said what I was thinking about the dogwoods--the color is inaccurate in the photo, for one thing. And really I don't care if it clashes with the house, since we'll be looking at it from indoors! This particular area is far from the driveway, entry, etc. so guests won't see it either, and we're set several hundred feet back from the road with mature 80'+ evergreens and similarly mature deciduous trees blocking the view of the house from the road....See MoreLooking for help/ideas on a landscaping project
Comments (5)The little triangle to the left of the porch doesn't look big enough for a tree. What are the actual measurements? Will a medium to large shrub be a better choice? To determine how close to the house to plant, find out how wide a particular shrub will grow, divide by 2 and add enough to keep the plant off the siding. So a shrub that wants to be 4 feet wide should be planted at least 3 or 4 feet away from the house. Whether you plant in front of the basement window will be determined by how important it is to have some natural light in the basement. You don't want to "incorporate" the window in a way that will call attention to it. There is no reason to raise the beds with topsoil. If you soil is poor, amend it heavily with compost. Plastic borders don't stay put very well, and are not very attractive. There have been lots of threads here about bed edging, a search will bring up more than you can stand to read. The bigger question is what are you trying to accomplish with your plantings? The side of the house is a huge expanse of siding, and I think it would be an improvement to break it up a bit. You won't accomplish this with azaleas in a skinny bed along the foundation. Maybe some larger shrubs placed a bit away from the house in a bed of layered plantings? The farther from the house, the more sun they'll get, expanding your plant selection. Lilacs want sun, and azaleas need some sun too. A single photo of the whole house and most of the yard would be better than individual photos of bits and pieces of the house, in order to get a feel for what you're working with....See MoreSeeking participation in 70 natural area landscape design
Comments (13)pls8xx and gardenga148: I completely concur that the project should be broken down into 2 broad areas: (1) Land use/land planning for the overall 70 acres (2) Conversion of a small part to residential use I am still contemplating #1. However, I do believe I have settled on an aspect of overall land use. I believe, basically along or near the nature path, an area of sufficient width and composition to benefit bobwhite quail usage. In the old days, farms had small fields with lots of overgrown fence rows. That habitat was ideal for bobwhite quail. I believe I want to lay out the farm along those parameters (knowing that certain desires/goals compete with others). My research, consultation with my pastor (former horitculturalist and quail plantation manager) and personal experience are leading me to a strip approximately 15 feet wide of lespedeza intermixed with something like switchgrass or one of the other native grasses. I believe I want to combine the "habitat utility" of those or similar plants with a stepped (height and width) variety of native flowering, perennial plants, choosing a variety which is consistent with the wildlife management goal and visual appeal goal. There is a substantial likelihood that I would also break up the 28 acre agricultural field with a couple of cross corridors of similar plant material. These are among the types of things I am struggling with now. Comment on layout, continuity, plant selection and the like are what I am seeking. As each of you have said, this is a huge, long-term project and I seek input from others who's experience may bear on the layout, design and plant selection. I understand there are many, many different "right" and "wrong" ways. However, respecting the opinions of those participating in these forums, I would be interesting in reading your opinions and views and why you have those opinions and views. With respect to what I hoped to achieve with the pond. I like water. I like the ocean, rivers (large and small), lakes and ponds. I like to fish ocassionally but what I REALLY like is to feed the fish. It is very soothing. The pond can be an attractive focal point to the landscape. It can provide the "mirrored" images of the foliage surrounding it. And, if need be, it can provide for some irrigation. I have always liked looking out across the water, of sitting on my porch and looking across the water. I liked the idea of driving down the driveway into the house site and looking at the house across the pond as well. Back to another aspect of the overall land use. We initially intended to put the entire property into a pecan orchard, for both looks and future revenue. However, knowing there are always bad years along with good years with any crop, we decided that was not very smart. We also became interested in muscadine vineyards and fruit production. So, we will probably incorporate a bit of the pecan orchard, vineyard and fruit orchard. We want approximately 1/2 to 1 acre vegetable garden site. I believe we also want a "gardening" experimentation site of approximately 1/2 to 1 acre as well as a small greenhouse. I strongly expect we will leave the remaining oak ridge in mostly an as-is condition for the wildlife usage, but, with some modification to make in more friendly to the turkey and quail. I seem to have rambled a bit and apologize. But, with such a large overall project, it is difficult to include all the desires and keep them organized and coordinated. nandina, with respect to the observation of native flora, existing but possibly hidden features, I will try to do some walking and photographing this weekend. One focal point at the northern most point of the property where you see Potential Well Location, there was an old homeplace there. The shallow well still remains there. I expect to clean that well out and hang a usable well bucket there. An arbor is a possibility there. It could be purely decorative or be a "natural" appearing arbor with cultured muscadine vines so one could sit on a draw a bucket of cool well water, pick a few grapes, sit on a wooden bench, eat the grapes and look out over the landscape. One feature I didn't know about until buying and spending time on the farm is that for whatever reason, it attacts substantially more summer and fall breezes than most areas in the surrounding countryside. Thank you all again for your input and I look forward to more comments, critiques and suggestions. I will attach images of some of the wildflowers or weeds growing in the cut-over areas now....See MoreChinese Fringe Tree, No Fringe!
Comments (50)edlincoln -- Oh, I mean I guess anything is feasible if you have enough money... but in this case I really want a tree to "mark" the corner of the property, as it slopes down. (Having height there helps improve the look of a sloped front yard, at least according to most landscape gardening theory I've been in contact with.) So moving this tree just to potentially get it to flower seems like a waste of money. Those of you who think this is a "too much shade" issue -- doesn't it make a difference that the tree to the south of this one is a (late leafing) river birch? Shouldn't that mean the fringe tree is getting enough sun in the spring?...See Morefloral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
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