The most thorough coverage of this subject that I'm aware of was a doctoral dissertation by Charles Walker (founder of the Heritage Rose Foundation). From that dissertation (which I have somewhere, but will have to search for), is this publication: Walker, Jr., C. A. and D. J. Werner. 1997. Isozyme and randomly amplified polymorphic DNA (RAPD) analyses of Cherokee rose and its putative hybrids 'Silver Moon' and 'Anemone'. J. Amer. Soc. Hort. Sci. 122(5):659-664. Here's the abstract of the article: Two banding patterns were revealed by phosphoglucomutase (PGM) isozyme analysis of 24 accessions of Cherokee rose (Rosa laevigata Michx.) from eight southeastern states, based on the presence (in 5 accessions) or absence (in 19 accessions) of an additional slow-migrating band. RAPD analysis of these accessions showed a corresponding division into the same two groups determined by PGM analysis, except for two accessions with unique RAPD phenotypes. Field-grown accessions showed distinguishing morphological characters corresponding to the groupings from the isozyme and RAPD analyses. Those in the predominant isozyme and RAPD groups, as well as the two with unique RAPD phenotypes, exhibited smooth lateral stems, while those in both nonpredominant groups exhibited markedly bristly laterals. These results suggest that the 24 accessions are ramets of two major clones with one clone predominating and that, contrary to long-standing belief, the Cherokee rose has not naturalized by reseeding in the southeast. PGM and RAPD analyses of putative Cherokee rose hybrids Anemone and ÂSilver Moon showed that ÂAnemone is likely to be such a hybrid but that ÂSilver Moon is not. Historical records revealed that widespread vegetative propagation of the Cherokee rose was initiated in 1820-21 and that L. Wiesener, not J.C. Schmidt, was the originator of ÂAnemoneÂ. ________________ Then from the introduction to the paper: The Cherokee rose (Rosa laevigata Michx.) was believed to be a U.S. native when it first came to the attention of plant enthusiasts in the late 18th and early 19th centuries (Lindley, 1820). This belief persisted into the 20th century and is so stated in the resolution adopting it as the Georgia state flower (General Assembly of the State of Georgia, 1916). Although it is now acknowledged to be a native of China, the circumstances of its entry into the United States remain obscure. It has long been reported to be naturalized widely in the southern states (Bailey, 1925; Radford et al., 1968; Torrey and Gray, 1838-40). Confusion between this and another Chinese native, the Macartney or Chickasaw rose (R. bracteata J.C. Wendl.), may have influenced this belief. However, personal observation since 1972 has revealed no evidence of reseeding of the Cherokee rose as if it were native, suggesting that it is not naturalized in the sense of Jackson (1928) but is persistent at dwellings and other sites of deliberate planting. In contrast, reseeding of the Macartney rose has infested ~201,000 ha in Texas, and much effort has been devoted to its control (Garoian et al., 1984). ______________ Then in the discussion at the end of the article is this: Search of the early literature. A large volume of material relating to the Cherokee rose was discovered in 19th century literature, some of it apparently unseen by previous writers on this rose. Of particular relevance to the present study is an 1820 letter to the American Farmer from C. E. Rowand, who had been using it for hedging on his plantation near Charleston, S.C., since about 1808 and highly recommended it to his fellow planters, offering to send "any quantity of the cuttings" free of charge, except freight (Rowand, 1820). In 1826, a list of 50 recipients of RowandÂs largesse of 1820-21 was published in the American Farmer, revealing that material had been sent to Delaware, Georgia, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Virginia, and Matanzas, probably in Florida, as well as to Edinburgh, Scotland (Skinner, 1826). General John Joor of Wilkinson County, Miss., began experimenting with the Cherokee rose as a hedge plant about 1822. Only 30 years later, Benjamin Wailes (1852) estimated that >1000 miles of Cherokee rose hedges existed in the Mississippi counties of Adams and Wilkinson alone. Given these circumstances, it is not difficult to see how later writers would interpret ubiquity as naturalization. Two early records reveal the presence in the southeast of Cherokee rose plant with smooth laterals like the predominant group in this study. One plant, Grown by William W. Anderson (1820) of Stateburg, S.C. had an "oblong-ovate hispid germ seated upon a short smooth peduncle," apparently indicating a smooth flowering stem. Another plant was sent by James Wilson from Savannah, Ga., to the Glasgow Botanic Garden, where it flowered in 1828 for what was said to be the first time in the British Isles. A depiction of it shows smooth laterals (Curtis, 1828). This trait, together with the origin of the plants, suggests that these two plants belong to the predominant group in this study. Lindley (1820), after having examined only two herbarium specimens of it, described as R. hystrix a form of R. laevigata with bristly laterals. Results of this study suggest that a high percentage of the Cherokee rose plants now growing in the southeast are ramets of the same clone and may have been propagated from cuttings distributed by Rowand from Charleston in 1820-21. __________________ The whole article, and the entire dissertation are well worth reading, but I thought these bits may be of use here. Malcolm

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