Jerry Baker Tonics and Alkaline water issues
Laurel Zito
8 years ago
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Comments (22)Jerry Baker still lives. Funny isn't it? For a second Thursday, which is one of my 2 watering days by city rule, I sprayed my dry, thatchy 1,000sf front lawn with water, and a 50/50 mix of grape soda (grape soda is about the highest in sugar that you can get, and it's less than 70 cents for a 2-liter at "Wally World".), lemon ammonia, and a little Murphy's Oil Soap thrown in for softening and wetting. 2 weeks of that, and the grass is nicely green, NOT necessarily like a lush dark green swath of carpet, but not bad at all, considering-- also, most of the thatch is pretty much gone. I started playing with Jerry Baker's advice, formulas, and ideas about 5 years ago, snapping up every one of his books that I came across in area thrift stores. My front "lawn", in those days was, literally, a 1000sf Florida sandbox. It's come a long, LONG way since, thanks mostly to the late Mr. Baker, and it's been a heck of a lot of fun besides. A real kick for that little "mad chemist" wannabe in me. If you read Baker's stuff, you will find out that, in the early days, he was just about as big into "hard-core" chemical use as anybody. Gradually, his tone and his advice changed into a whole variety of the quirky formulas made from household items that are still going 'round and 'round, and are STILL bickered over regularly by both the chem-chumps and the organically-inclined. Baker didn't live to see much but the beginnings of our latest "green revolution". He probably would have welcomed it to an extent, but then again. . . Gradually, Baker dropped the worst and most expendable of the chemicals. I don't know specifically what it was that precipitated his personal revolution-- however, in the process, he obviously found himself a niche full of (maybe slightly nutty) do-it-yourselfers like himself, and gently guided, fed and nurtured a whole lot of folks with gardening insecurities-- like myself. Call it whooey. if you want. Baker himself certainly doesn't care at this point. Meanwhile, my own lawn is still far, FAR from perfect. Still, of those in my neighborhood, it isn't bad at all, hardly the worst to be seen. It mostly grows nicely, and a good bit of green, which may or may not be mostly bermuda grass, and nearly the entire 1000 sf is covered. Further, it holds up pretty well despite 2-3 years of drought lately. All this with little more that some as much peat as I could afford to thrown at it, a little sulphur for further pH lowering ( because it started at over a 7), some once/twice a year amendments (amounting to roughly a dozen bags TOTAL of peat, topsoil, and composted manure). I WAS putting on as much as 20# of seed a year --could have used less, and had a lot more of it germinate maybe, AFTER a couple ton of amendments were rototilled in from , but I couldn't afford that. Other than the above improvements, I used and still use some version of Jerry Baker's watering tonics for at least one of the 2 waterings a week that I am allowed. Last time I did any digging in my front lawn, I even found myself with a few genuine, live. wriggling EARTHWORMS trying to escape my excavation. Pretty cool, that, since the critters might as well have been a top endangered species when I first started working out there. The entire front yard was just that dead. COULD IT HAVE BEEN DONE much faster, much easier, and with a whole lot more money spent on it? Sure! Absofreakinlutely. I could have just thrown down a bunch of St. Aug sod, and replaced it every few years when the inch of soil it comes with croaked from exhaustion, but hey-- where's the fun in that??...See MoreJerry Baker's recipes
Comments (81)I love Jerry Baker and all of his crazy tips and tonics! He gets that gardening is like life you have to try this and that and see what works best for you. If you need gardening and/or life to be an exact recipe for your happiness and success you need to go back to chemicals at the gardening store. In any event I'm looking to perk up my hibiscus out on the balcony. Does anyone have Jerry's recipe for houseplant tonic? Many thanks for sharing it if you do....See MoreSoil Alkaline 7.5
Comments (9)Ebay is your friend. Iron is the only micronutrient that is problematic to deliver in a usable form in alkaline soil. Iron doesn't work well as a foliar spray and is horribly staining. I've never seen the proper chelate offered in an Arizona nursery, which is curious. Ferriplus or Sequestrene 138 is what you want, although they are a bit expensive. Follow the directions for soil application. The stuff will stain anything it touches red if it gets wet. Late winter ~ early spring is the most critical time for iron deficiency. There is actually plenty of iron in most Arizona soils, but the combination of cold winter soil and alkalinity totally locks out availability, especially for some rootstocks. Only the chelates in Ferriplus or Sequestrene 138 are effective at pH > 7.5, other chelated products are intended for areas that don't have our alkaline soil issues. The problem subsides somewhat as the soil warms. Zinc, manganese and magnesium are also common problems in winter alkaline soil but are easily and very cheaply cured with simple foliar sprays. Zinc sulfate and Manganese sulfate are cheap on Ebay. Magnesium sulfate is epsom salt, available at any drug store. Zinc and manganese can be applied together, magnesium is best on it's own. Wait at least a few days between applying the zinc + manganese solution and applying the magnesium. Magnesium works very well as a foliar spray, but also works well applied to the soil. Zinc and Manganese work much better as foliar sprays. For Zn + Mn, mix a solution of ~1/2 teaspoon of each mineral salt in a gallon of pure water. Purified water from a vending machine is much preferable to local tap water. It helps with absorbtion to add 1/2 teaspoon of urea per gallon to the mix, if available. Spray the leaves to runoff after sundown. Application 3 times a year works for me. Early spring application is the most important. There are premixed, all-in-one micronutrient products available at nurseries and garden centers, but in my experience it's worth the effort to order the chemicals to make the proper application, separate from competing minerals. It is much more effective. The chemicals are cheap, just a bit of hassle to order. Here is a link that might be useful: Ebay Ferriplus vendor....See MoreSounds a little strange to me...
Comments (10)Yeah, um, sorry honey, I must've gotten knocked up after using one of my pills to stop my African Violet leaves from curling...but hey, look at those leaves! ...I used the urine for the pregnancy test, and what was left over I threw in the yard to keep the deer and rabbits away...errrr, the the deer. The rabbit already died. ...we're on the right track because that baby shampoo sure is going to come in handy someday with Jerry Baker's recipes. Would you like some Bourbon, honey?...See Moretoxcrusadr
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