Good Doug Trees?
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are there good trees, when it comes to good fruit?
Comments (4)I would agree there are good and bad trees. IF same variety on same rootstock, they should all be the same genetically and produce the same (in theory anyway). However, when I worked in an orchard commercially, we had 4 rows of Spartan apples all on the same rootstock and planted the same time. A few of those trees produced heavily every year but the apples they produced were so small they fell thru the sizer while grading. Worthless except for cider. We tried fertilizing and found no size increase. The trees were healthy otherwise. Virus? The few trees like this seemed healthy and showed no visual signs of virus. I have the same issue on concord grapes. I bought 3 nice healthy looking vines bare-root. The first produces normal concord fruit in shape and yield every year. The second vine grows rampantly but never produces much as the clusters have 2-3 fruits in them only. The third vine always has gigantic clusters of grapes that are breathtaking to see as they are so big and heavy. All three of these concord vines ripen the same time and taste like Concord. If I ever propagate my own it will be from the vine with the gigantic clusters of fruit. Just pointing out that sports, viruses ect can make a difference in a block of fruit all the same variety. Really important for the propagator to pick the best tree/vine when grafting/budding or rooting a fruit variety....See MoreDoug Tallamy on Prunus serotina
Comments (7)I've got at least a couple dozen P. serotina in this yard (1.25 acres), ranging from numerous young trees, to about a half dozen middle aged trees (25-50 years old). All are growing in the back yard. They grow up to become a large and rangy tree, with a loose form and dark craggy bark in older age. They are quite weedy, so they've naturalized around the back yard - and some years there are lots of seedlings that I have to weed out of the back garden. Such a great wildlife tree, but not the most ornamental tree. Also, black cherry is the source of wood for cherry cabinets and furniture. That is amazing that D. Tallamy's small trees are hosting so many lep larvae. Perhaps he doesn't have much in the way of host plants or predators in his neighborhood? I've never found any caterpillars when looking over the small P. serotina, but I don't look that often....See MoreDoug and Sam's Brooming Adventure
Comments (22)What a great time you must be having Sam, venturing into the conifer world so deeply at such a young age. It's really a great start for you under the wings of guys like Doug, Dick and Brent, amongst others. Great stories, finds and what great times, at least as conifer nuts, we all live in. -Will...See MoreNeed seedling source for Doug fir
Comments (2)A neat tree gomanson. Interestingly your department of forestry does not seem to have them for sale. http://www.forestfarm.com/products.php?params=plantNameGenus:Pseudotsuga I dig forest farm. Order from them every six months it seems lol. Do you need three or four trees or a few dozen? I would think if you are just looking for a bunch of regular non-cultivar specific trees there may be a cheaper source. Some cultivars of Fagus (beech) or Picea (Spruce) require more shade due to dainty pink or yellow foliage. Agreed, for the thickest foliage you need full sun. I have found trees to tolerate more shade tolerance especially when young. Makes them grow more narrow than one planted plum in the middle of your yard. At some point shade will be something the trees "tolerate" and then something that stresses them. By 7-8 Shade tolerance do you mean the tree is in the sun only two or three hours a day? What does your planting area look like?...See Moregardener365
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