need help with a small eat in kitchen update/remodel
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Budgeting a small kitchen remodeling - help needed
Comments (9)Have you been over to the kitchens forum? I'd recommend spending a couple of weeks reading over there and just absorbing. Sure, there are a lot of drop-dead $100k kight-end kitchens, but there are also some 10k DIY ones... and lots in between. I think you can do this and get the kitchen you want without hiring it ALL out to a GC. Sort of your option B. The first thing you need to do is come up with the layout. That's where the kitchen forum can really help. If your current layout is great, that's one huge hurdle overcome. REmember that changing plumbing will add a lot to the cost. Second, get some cabinet quotes so you can see what you're working with, budget-wise. I'm currently helping a friend with a budget, semi-DIY kitchen remodel. She really wants Carrara marble counters like mine, but may need to trim her budget elsewhere to afford them. WE're looking at Ikea cabinets (some googling will show you some gorgeous otherwise high-end kitchens with Vikings and Liebers and marble that used Ikea cabinets, so don't discount them out-of-hand.) as well as mid-priced semi-custom ones. Her strategy is to do the design and sourcing herself, but hire out the electrical (maybe), cabinet installation (unless Ikea), and countertop fabrication/installation. If there was any plumbing involved, she'd probably hire that out too. She'll remove the old cabinetry, install the faucet, tile the backsplash, paint, do minor electrical, patch drywall. In this way she does not need to hire anyone terribly skilled = expensive. Countertops are what they are, cabinet install is usually done by some subs the cabinet-seller recommends, etc. If you are a good planner, organizer, and scheduler, this might work for you....See MoreLayout help for small eat-in kitchen
Comments (16)I'm glad he liked it! One caution about reducing the opening of the archway to the LR...to eliminate the need for filler b/w the refrigerator and wall, the doors have to stick out into the doorway so they will be able to open fully. What size refrigerator did you buy? I put in a 30" wide, standard-depth refrigerator b/c in spaces like this a narrower but deeper refrigerator usually works best. Normally, I recommend sizing for a 36" refrigerator, but you have limited space so you need to make the most of what you have! Note that I also recessed the refrigerator into the wall behind it a few inches...you may or may not be able to do that (it depends on what is in that wall and whether it can be moved). This recessing helps to minimize the impact of the refrigerator sticking out into the room as well as makes it look closer to counter-depth and built-in. BTW...I don't know if you noticed, but there's a 3/4" finished end panel on the non-wall side of the refrigerator...this is to make it look more "built-in" and to provide support for the full-depth cabinet over the refrigerator (full-depth is 24"). If it turns out you have yet another 3/4", I recommend putting a finished end panel on both sides of the refrigerator. Also note there is an end panel b/w the 9" filler pullouts and range. This end panel is so there's something to attach the filler pullouts to. Filler pullouts generally are a better use of space than cabinets of the same width b/c filler pullouts do not have walls or face frames. They attach to the sides of the cabinets on either side of the pullout. This can net you anywhere from an inch to 3" or more of additional space (depending on the width of your cabinet's walls and whether you have a face frame and whether they're inset.) If you are using frameless cabinets with 1/2" walls, then you would probably not gain much in this case b/c of the need to "add" a wall on the range side. But, if you have framed cabinets, I would stick w/a filler pullout. Here's an older thread that talks about filler pullouts: Thread: Rev-A-Shelf Spice Racks for Fillers -- Have you seen these!! Here is a link that might be useful: Rev-A-Shelf Filler Pull-Outs - Base...See MoreNeed small eat in kitchen layout help
Comments (9)The layout posted by sena01 has the existing plumbing and range placement in the correct spots. The range will be electric. (Currently there in only one line of cabinets holding the sink, no DW and range just hangs out by itself. Fridge and Washer also hang out alone along the wall near the hall)...See MoreFull kitchen remodel, need layout help (update)
Comments (18)Here's what you could do if you changed the windows: Two Prep Zones: Both Prep Zones have direct water access Both Prep Zones have a nice expanse of workspace next to the sink Both Prep Zones are next to the range Both Prep Zones have at least 43" of prep workspace b/w the range and sink Both Prep Zones are separated from the Cleanup Sink and Dish Storage . Other notes: Wall ovens are protected from traffic and are on the end of the cabinet run with landing space next to them Tray storage (cooling racks, cookie sheets, roasting pans, muffin tins, etc.) is above the ovens. Glass/heavy Casserole dishes can be stored in the drawer beneath the ovens (that's where I store mine). Pot/Pan storage is under the cooktop. If needed, a cabinet on either side could also be used. The Refrigerator is next to the Tea/Coffee & Snack Center, which provides ample landing space for the refrigerator. It's also directly across from both Prep Zones and the Cooking Zone. The Refrigerator is also located near the Garage entrance for ease of putting groceries away. The Snack Center counters provide not just landing space for taking things out, but also a place to put grocery bags while unloading into the Refrigerator. Tea/Coffee & Snack Center is located near both the Refrigerator and Pantry where most snacks come from. It has two 18" swinging doors (swing both ways) that provide a 36-inch entry. They don't have to swing both ways, but I thought they'd be more useful. I debated pocket doors, but they take a greater effort to use and might be a problem when trying to enter the Pantry with your hands full (ingredients or grocery bags). A built-in MW drawer is in the Tea/Coffee & Snack Center next to the refrigerator and out of the way of prepping, cooking, and cleaning up. There's a large step-in pantry across from the Prep & Cooking Zones and next to the Garage entrance, which makes it easy to put groceries away. No walking across the length of the house with heavy grocery bags. The shelves are floor to ceiling on 3 sides. The long back shelves are 12" deep (the "sweet spot" for pantry shelf depth) and the shelves along the sides can be either 12" or 15" deep, your choice. They could also be 18" deep, but at that depth things begin to get lost (experience speaking...my old pantry had 18" deep shelves and things always got lost!) The Cleanup Zone and Dish Storage are next to the Dining Room -- easy access to dishes for setting the table and to counters for dirty dishes when clearing the table. Someone loading/unloading the DW will be out of the way of someone else prepping/cooking Finally, there's a shallow closet for your husband's "new" office where the door used to be. . The aisles are wide enough to accommodate a busy path b/w the Game Room/Garage/Powder Room and the rest of the house. The placement of the doorways, now, are actually beneficial. Traffic is directed away from the primary work zones: Prep, Cooking, Cleanup. Work Zones:...See MoreRelated Professionals
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