You could try using cove lighting or a chandelier in lieu of cans for the vaulted area

David... Please expand on your advice of using Chandeliers... I am already using 2 chandeliers over the 11ft island area...

In the section of the kitchen with the flat ceiling, I already have two 6" recessed lights. This section is part of my existing kitchen. My plan was to add 3 more 6" sloped recessed lights in new part of the kitchen where the ceiling is sloped. I was going to use the Juno IC926 can housing. I realize I need to buy the trim and LED lights.

In the breakfast nook area where the table is located, I was planning on using four 6" sloped recessed lights using the Juno IC926 can housing. Additionally, I was planning to also add a chandelier in the area labeled kitchen/breakfast nook on the drawing attached in my first post. This chandelier will be a bigger version on the smaller chandelier over the island. Based on your comment, I am now wondering whether I can do away with the 4 sloped recessed lights over the table and do 2 chandeliers in the vaulted area. I would still have the recessed cans (total of 5) over the kitchen cabinet area.

For the cleanup sink near the dishwasher, the plan is to have a pendant light.

Please provide your comments.

For the typical recessed lighting can to be installed, there has to be significant space above the ceiling board. Sloped ceilings could be space constrained if they follow the angle of the roofing rafters (i.e. - the sheet rock is hung on the underside of the roof rafters).

An alternative is to use low profile ( ~ 1.5" tall) surface mount led modules (which look similar to recessed lights) as they do not require a full sized can.

Chandeliers alone might not provide sufficient lighting unless they incorporate significant light sources (high lumen output).

It might be possible to have a combination of chandeliers and cove lighting instead of recessed cans with sloped housings.

It appears that there is an open space above your cabinets which could be used for indirect lighting (i.e. - cove lighting). Crown molding could be added for cove lighting around the other side of the vaulted area.

David... The area labeled "Kitchen/Breakfast Nook" is a new addition that is currently under roof. The sheetrock has not been installed yet so the walls and ceiling is open right now. I met with the electrician and general contractor today and there is no restrictions as it relates to recessed lighting in this area.

If this were your space, what would you do? I am open for ideas..

I just want to recap my current thinking as it relates to lighting in this new space (see photo below).

The blue circles represents 6" recessed can lighting. In the area labeled "Kitchen/Breakfast Nook", the recessed lights will be sloped using the JUNO IC926 can housing. All the recess can lights will be retrofitted for LED lights with approximately 600 lumens each.

The blue square circles represents chandeliers. The chandeliers over the island will be a 4 light chandelier (Gallery Lighting model #G46-275/4SW) with 60 watt satin finish candelabra thread spun bulb with approximately 600 lumens each. The chandelier in the area labeled "Kitchen/Breakfast Nook" will be a 12 light chandelier (Gallery Lighting model #F46-385/6+6) with 60 watt satin finish candelabra thread spun bulb with approximately 600 lumens each.

The blue triangle represents the pendant light over the cleanup sink. There will be one 60 watt bulb with approximately 600 lumens.

The blue stars represents 12v puck lighting in the 2 cabinets with glass fronts. Currently I have 1 puck light in an existing glass cabinet and I plan to extend the lighting to 2 new glass cabinets. Not sure what the lumens will be yet.

Not illustrated on the photo below is lighting under the cabinets. In the old kitchen I am currently using the 12v Sea Gull Ambiance Lx Cable System for under cabinet lighting. I plan to extend this lighting system into the new kitchen area and retrofit the bulbs with LED (12V Frosted T3 Festoon LED 4000K - Model #96119S-33). The lumens for these bulbs are 62.

Please provide advice on my current thinking.

David... Thanks for responding... The 12V transformers (300 watts for UCL and 100 watts for puck lights) is large enough to handle the additional load.

I am leaning toward using recessed lighting along the kitchen cabinet wall. Is five 6" recessed lights enough?

For the recessed lights (total of 4) along the right wall near the breakfast nook table, I wanted to use 4 recessed lights. However; after talking with the electrician and the location of the roof rafters, I may only be able to use 3 recessed lights. Is three 6" recessed lights enough? I will have a 12 light chandelier in this area as well. I just don't know how all these recessed lights will like in the ceiling. If I could do cove lighting for the area near the breakfast nook table I would explore that option but I have no crown molding in this area.

It will be an interesting lighting situation - one line of recessed cans with a chandelier to one side.

Perhaps, you could get input from a local lighting specialist.

David... Do you think I need the 12 light chandelier in the area labeled "Kitchen/Breakfast Nook" if I go with all recessed lights that I mentioned in my previous post. Please advise as I need to finalize the lighting plan today.

If your intent is to have the chandelier as a separate source/ layer of light (on a separate circuit than the recessed lights) controlled independently of the recessed lights, the recessed can lighting in the vaulted area has to be balanced.

Perhaps another 3 lights.

The kitchen lighting will probably be on a separate circuit.

Yes... The chandelier will be on a separate circuit.. I talked to a local lighting specialist this morning and I will provide her recommendation shortly.

I talked to a local lighting specialist this morning and below is her recommendation. I would like to hear your opinion.

Island Lighting - the specialist recommended 3 pendant lights over the 11ft island as oppose to 2 chandeliers. She said pendant lights will point light directly on the island whereas chandeliers direct light on the ceiling. One of the pendant lights over the island will be hung from the vaulted ceiling. Since the prep sink is on the island she is leaning toward pendants, however; my wife loves chandeliers.

Recessed Lighting in Kitchen - the specialist recommends 5" recess housing cans in the vaulted kitchen area along the kitchen cabinet. She said they produce better light than the 6" housing cans. I called Juno and they do not make sloped 5" housing cans. Over the cleanup sink, she recommends a recess light as oppose to a pendant. My wife likes the pendant option above the cleanup sink.

Breakfast Nook lighting - the specialist recommend not doing recessed lights over the area where the breakfast nook table is located. She recommends a chandelier that is centered over the table.

Please provide your feedback.

Depending on the opacity of the shade used, the light can be constrained like a recessed can or be spread in an omni directional fashion.

Chandeliers provide more omnidirectional lighting and are better suited for large spaces.

The quality of the light from a recessed can depends on the lamp used. Fwiw, a Cree CR6 can be fitted into some 5" and 6" cans.

David.. I had a local lighting specialist visit my home yesterday. The specialist provided me a number of ideas. One of the ideas I am struggling with and need your opinion. Over the island, the specialist recommended a combination of 3 pendants or chandeliers with 2 recessed lights. I have not seen any photos that has this combination. I realize that the recessed lights will be directly light on the island to illuminate the prep area as well as the additional oven in the island. Please provide your feedback.

There could be interesting lighting patterns with the chandeliers and recessed lighting, depending on the relative placement as well as the light output from the chandeliers and recessed lights.

If chandeliers are used for the vaulted area, a different style would help - avoiding too much of the same thing.

David... This combination (chandelier and recessed lights over the island) is definitely different and I have not seen photos of this combination. I am wondering if a compromise would be to use only 3 chandeliers or pendants over the island only and move the recessed lights along the wall where the cabinets are located more toward the center of the aisle between the cabinets and island. Right now the recessed lights are 32" from the wall. The aisle distance between the cabinets and island will be approximately 48". Currently I am using a Cree Par30 short neck 3000K 40 degree beam spread bulb in the Juno can with clear alzak trim. The hope is that the light will spread toward the counter tops along the cabinets as well as the counter top on the island. Please provide your feedback.

FYI.. Another option could be to add another row of recessed lights along the front of the island and have 3 chandeliers or pendants centered along the island.

See photos attached of lighting options above island....

The last photos is what the final lighting plan could eventually look like depending on the placement of the recessed lights near the island.

Option 1:

Option 2:

Option 2 with the lights biased a little more towards the cabinet wall. That way, the pendants/ chandeliers over the island can play a more prominent role in lighting the island.