Tulsa Area Companion Planting for Vegetable Garden, etc?
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Lack of Vegetable Plants in Garden Centres
Comments (6)I have not bought plants in garden centres recently since I started growing almost everything from seed, but I do not remember ever seeing tomatoes or peppers in flats. I remember flats being reserved for annuals. For a good source of nursery stock and good variety try Ritchie Feed & Seed. Even the Carp Road nursery which is the smaller one has a good selection. WalMart has in recent years had a good selection of herbs and vegetables grown by Bonnie and resonably priced....See MoreTulsa area gardening tips and nursery locations & sales/discounts
Comments (70)I didn't know about a St. Patrick's Day planting schedule for other plants, but both my grandfather and my father always planted potatoes as close to St. Patrick's Day as possible. Of course you must take into account the weather and soil conditions. I watch the 10 day weather forecast closely, and plant accordingly. For instance, seeing that we have several above average temperatures ahead during the next ten days, AND the forecast for rain today, I spent a lot of time in the garden preparing beds for seeding, then planted my first batch of onions and potatoes yesterday (March 13). I also planted a new Red Blaze Climbing Rose. It seems that if the soil becomes saturated and cold weather returns, you can often miss out on optimal planting dates. Right now, my peonies are sprouting up to about 6 inches and my lilacs are full of unopened buds. Another thing I watch for is the leafing of Oak trees- I feel more comfortable in planting warmer weather crops when the Oaks tell me that warm weather has arrived. Ron Z...See MorePlanning , Planting And Maintaining A Vegetable Garden
Comments (57)Hazel, how exciting to hear about your plants! It's a fun and rewarding time of year, isn't it? I have decided not to worry so much about doing every little thing just so, Dawn is right, plants know what to do. SO. . . when did you plant your beans? You planted them from seed? What kind of beans did you plant? I have not planted mine yet but I'm thinking I need to get on the ball and do it. My habit has been to plant later rather than earlier and I think this year I want to go ahead and get my seeds in the ground. It's been a warm and extremely dry season so far. I'm sure the colder temps are behind us. I just want RAIN!! My carrots and beets are still very small but at least they have a start. Everything I started indoors, under the grow light I made, I have been very disappointed with. (I'll do my homework for next year) I started my squash and cukes too early and I'm just going to plant seeds next week. My tomatoes are just pitiful. I think I'll keep trying and transplant next month and have a back up plan with plants from a nursery. Here in Enid, my selection is a joke, BUT actually last year I bought a cherry tomato plant, variety unknown, that just did marvelous and produced till the frost did it's number on it. My peas that I planted from seeds look great, about 3" tall now. Oh how I hope I get a good crop, I do love my peas! My asparagus is doing superb, almost all of the 18 or so plants have sprouted and are now covered with soil and hay. Dawn, you have so much experience and give great advice, so here is a question for you. What kind of Espoma do you use? I had no idea there were so many to choose from! I also have been adding organic material to my soil for the past couple of years and it's looking good, I would like to simplify things and get a basic fertilizer, if that is what can be done. I have had the OSU extension center do soil sample tests on different parts of my garden for a couple of years and my pH is good, just needs a bit of potassium and phosphorus, which I have added. Thanks all!...See MoreCompanion Plants - Vegetables/Herbs
Comments (3)companionship is part of soil management together with rotation and cover crops and attempts to get more food out of the same area. In fact you will have to try things for yourself. consider for example an association of tomatoes and cabbage, as is suggested in many sites. I tried in Michigan and it does not work, or at least produces subpar cabbage while probably giving me also less tomatoes. But it is possible that in sunny Arizona that will work as the amount of sunlight there is enough for both, while tomatoes protect cabbage from excessive sunlight. You can reason your way into several successful companionships by following some rules. First, you want to optimize sunlight collection. You can plant lettuce with tomatoes, they will be gone by the time the tomatoes grow to get big. Even when big, some vegetables produce dappled shade. Sunlight that hits the soil is wasted and is in fact a slight negative. Some greens make it in such conditions. In various beds, I have chicory, arugula, corn salad, and clover (to grow nitrogen), under tomatoes and asparagus. Note that very often these small, shade tolerant veggies are mentioned in companionships due to their ability to withstand partial shade. You can evaluate canopies and take your own decisions. I have not found any companion for collards, zucchini, cardoon and potato. They just cover the ground so completely you can not grow anything under. Second, you ought to minimize root interactions. Deep rooted and shallow rooted veggies use different resources, effectively allowing a more efficient use of the garden. Carrots go down to 8 feet, which is double the tomato depth. They will be using different nutrients. You can find a description of roots of veggies here http://soilandhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/01aglibrary/010137veg.roots/010137toc.html http://soilandhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/01aglibrary/010139fieldcroproots/010139toc.html and you should have an idea of the underground canopy in your garden. There is really no gain in ignoring it. For this reason many suggest carrots paired with tomatoes, but I am dissatisfied with carrots ability to cover ground. After the spring greens are gone, I have either clover (medium-rooted) or chicory (deep rooted) under toms. Chicory gives me three crops (spring, fall, and spring again after winter), and effectively I get more food from the same patch. and chicory completely closes canopy. Third, there are principles of soil health that you can find in hundreds of webpages or youtube presentations from the USDA NRCS, ATTRA, SARE, Rodale Institute and others. Mixing different crops, and in particular having mycorrhizal species, has long term benefits for the soil. I mix carrots and kale, and parsnips and lacinato, plants that are similar in aerial size, with different roots and different microbiology, and it works fine, even though I lose the next spring kale crop when I dig the carrots. Beets and beans, most roots and onions follow the same above ground/below ground/mycorrhizal considerations. You always have to figure out that you will pick the roots after the other crop of course. Having living mycorrhizal roots continuously also helps the soil (overwintering roots), and deep roots are crucial for soil infiltration (water moving down after rain) and capillarity (water moving up when it is dry). All this is accomplished not necessarily with companions, but also with winter cover crops or rotations which are part of the same soil management concepts. Be aware that some cover crops are tough to kill. You could also just make at least part of your garden a cottage garden, with many species mixed and permanent roots from herbs, and see if it works for you. in a cottage garden it is tough to grow root crops without hurting nearby roots, so I don’t do it. List of plant associations with myc.: http://mycorrhizae.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Mycorrhizal-Status-of-Plant-Families-and-Genera-PDF.pdf...See Moredownplay
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