Lady of Shalott pruning
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As a climber: Jude the Obscure or Lady of Shalott?
Comments (28)Three years ago I moved Jude to the back of my garden and it hasn't done much so far. But as I recall, it took it quite a few years to show its stuff in the earlier spot it was in, years and years and lots and lots of unplanned pruning because I was always getting stabbed with its vicious thorns as I went by. But it had no disease and was very vigorous. Maybe I don't have the hang of pruning it. To tell the truth, I didn't like the fragrance of this rose at first, although then I grew to like it. I still don't think it is has a graceful or even an attractive habit. It does have that beautiful cup-shaped blossom, but the flowers never open up and develop in the interesting way real old-fashioned cup-shaped roses do, which is a bit disappointing, and they are useless to bring in the house. I am contemplating replacing it with a real climber -- or maybe an elderberry trained as a climber, but will give it another year. Sigh....See MoreUPDATE: Thanks michaelg, mad-gallica & nikthegreek!
Comments (2)Your problem was drainage obviously and the potting soil sounds like it was all clay. As long as the mix drains reasonably well you should have no problem. Roses are not very sensitive but, of course, they are not mangroves. Hope the rose is still alive. A bit of pruning of the root edges may be in order before repotting to get rid of any rotting bits and stimulate root growth. You can test the drainage before potting. Just fill the pot with your mix, press it down well, saturate it first (water it until it starts draining), leave it to drain well once and then pour water in it again until it overflows and watch how fast it drains out. If it takes ages rather than half a minute minute or two to drain then you should add more material with larger grain size. PS. I would treat the roots with a broad spectrum fungicide (for example a copper based one or a systemic one containing thiophanate methyl e.g. Neotopsin or containing fosetyl-Al) just to be on the safe side, but only because I have these readily available. I'm not telling you to go out and buy this stuff to use....See MoreLady of Shalott
Comments (30)Helen, your LOS looks beautiful! Mine looks like the Dickens right now. The tree (my neighbor's) that used to shade it from the worst of the afternoon sun, was cut down earlier this year. So the poor thing gets the brunt of the sun all day long and is planted next to the cement walkway and cement driveway, which throws off all sorts of ambient heat. However, that being said, she is throwing out long canes and semi double flowers that smell like spiced baked apples to me. I love her scent! I will be buying a tuteur for her for next year to wrap those canes around. She does produce laterals. I do have to say mine is own root and she does take some time to come into her own. I had her in a totally sunny spot and she hated it. I moved her to partial shade and she was much better. Now the poor thing is in total sun again. I feel bad for her! Other than to dig her up and move her (my neighbors would complain as they love this rose!), there is no way to provide shade for her in the afternoon. When she was in the shade, she produced more pinkish flowers. Her flowers are pretty much orange in the sun. LOS in the spring--the other flowers there are a flowering pomegranate. LOS in spring (many moons ago) when it was cold and rainy and not in blazing sun....See MoreMadame Anisette or Lady of Shalott, which one do you recommend?
Comments (29)LoS (grafted on DH), doesn't black spot all that much for me. She is usually green and healthy. At my old place, which was very close to the Atlantic Ocean and the St John's River, so very humid during summer. I didnt spray there and dont spray here either. I had it espaliered on a 16 ft cattle panel fastened on T Posts. It took very well to that situation. It started out in full sun but after a few yrs, the Live Oak nearby grew out and gave it too much afternoon shade so it bloomed less,but it still bloomed well! I have Madame Anisette but it is still a baby..maybe 6ft. It hasnt bloomed that much yet. Its own root. Her foliage stays healthy. I have her next to a tall metal RV carport next to a Spirit of Freedom, hopefully they will gobble it up. Another thought...Bathsheba is healthy and blooms well. Interestingly, she always blooms right along the same time as my Quicksilvers. I have 2 Bathshebas and 4 Quicksilvers. They always all bloom together which is kinda weird but nice! Bathsheba here is similar to Teasing Georgia, Crown Princess M, and LoS in terms of growth habit and healthy foliage. Bathsheba blooms more though. LoS ..nice green leaves....See MoreUser
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