Same Old Question - Blue Star or Wolf From - Real Owners Please Reply
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Fit and finish, Wolf and BlueStar -- specifics, please
Comments (45)My arguments were not against Bluestar. My reaction was to the claims and to the reasoning/marketing/promo when a poster asked for specific points of comparison between 2 ranges. I won't have an opinion until I test it myself, side by side with the others -- and it will happen early in the summer. I do know is that heat distribution has a lot to do with the configuration of the burner, the number of gas jets and their relationship to pan size. No one mentions the distance between the top of the grate and the surface of the burner or any degree of adjustability on those -- all of which could affect heat distribution as well. Clearly the star shape of the BS burners puts a higher percentage of the underside of a pan in contact with heat than, say a burner with a single ring of jets. For me, sealed/open burners is more of a cleaning issue though it certainly affects the height of the burner. But in theory, if a sealed burner were well configured, the heat distribution should be excellent. As good? Let's see. I've seen Trevor's very admirable videos which come with his conclusions. To be fair, they may be perfectly valid and correct. However, it's undeniable that he has a vested interest in those conclusions. I have no problem with that and I totally applaud and admire his willingness to do objective side-by-side testing of the various ranges in his school where several are available and anything needed can be called in. However, what did come out of the discussion was the issue of the oven as a significant component of the range. Otherwise, we're just talking about rangetops. Meanwhile, I love that all the Bluestar and Wolf folks are coming out for their pianos. Passion is a wonderful quality in life. Your infrared photos are super and movajean's photos yesterday were a hoot. Made me think: more please!...See MoreNeed 48' Range-Reviews of GE Monogram, American, BlueStar, Wolf?
Comments (23)I purchased a wolf dual fuel 48" 9 months ago and after several service calls, Wolf did a buy back on the range. It was kind of strange, I would have been ok with another range but they did not want to switch it out. They were very nice, tried to service it but never really looks at the internals, instead would send a chef out here to cook in it and troubleshoot it. My issue was mainly the convection. Cook on one rack, no issues, cook on all of them like cookies and extremely uneven cooking from top to bottom and back to front. Not satisfied. Hated the lack of rolling racks, I find the racks hard to pull out. Had the double griddle. Fantastic to cook on but the grease catcher does not catch grease, instead it fills up, overflows underneath and makes quite the mess, even when the catcher is not full....they even mentioned that it is a design flaw. The actual service help after was good in most respects, would I buy another wolf? maybe some day, but not that range for sure. Also, took forever to heat up and boiling a pot of water took too long for such a beautiful unit. I am now purchasing a capital culinarian...hoping for much better results........See MoreWolf or BlueStar 30' gas range - advice please
Comments (7)Wolf owner here, and I disagree with the statement about quality suffering after its merge with SZ. Wolf stands behind its products, and if something were to go wrong, the response is immediate and decisive. On this forum, you will rarely read about repeated problems with a Wolf range or oven. Do a search on this website and you'll get lots of input on the attributes or disadvantages of a Wolf range v other brands. Only you can decide how you'll cook, what you want in a range, etc. Most people are really happy with what they've purchased (regardless of brand) because they spent so much time doing research. Good luck figuring it out....See MoreBlue Star owners...what is it worth to you?
Comments (22)I don't own a Bluestar. My nephew does, because I told him he should buy one (and he loves it). One of my friends owns an original Garland restaurant stove, which I have cooked on several times. For many years, I cooked on an open burner O'Keefe & Merritt range, a 1948 classic. It was a great stove1 Not as much horsepower as today's ranges, but the open burner system is a cinch to maintain. Line the pullouts with foil and it takes less than a minute to change both. I've cooked on two different closed burner ranges for over 20 years: a Frigidaire/Kenmore, and a Whirlpool/Kenmore. They both had/have double PowerPlus burners, running 14.5K BTU. Neither one has half the guts of the Bluestar or Garland when it comes to fast, efficient high-heat cooking. Now, they're not bad ranges. Both my current and past ranges had nice large ovens and beautiful low simmer controls. They have timers (which I use a lot) and you can set both delayed bake and timed bake. But I would happily pay FIVE TIMES what I paid for one of these closed burner stoves, for a pro-style open burner range again. I can't, because the space I have is so tight for the range, I can't fit one in. I lack less than 1/4" of the necessary width, and believe me, I'm bummed that it's not possible. I cook a lot, and often that cooking is NOT high heat. But for sear-roasting and stir-frying, and to have a great broiler? Yes, I could really use those things. What I find most appealing is the lack of electronics. I've replaced circuit boards three times and they are VERY costly. I also find, as many others have, that cleaning a closed burner stove when you do a lot of high-heat cooking, is a real nightmare. I won't even let my DH clean the stove any longer - he got so frustrated one day by the inability to get the area near the burners clean, he actually attacked it with a knife to try to scrape the gunk off, not realizing that in doing so he permanently scratched up the glass so now it can't be cleaned at all! OTOH, if you are not as serious about cooking, there is no reason to pay the premium for the Blue Star/Capital/Wolf/Thermador/Viking/American pro-style ranges at all. A mid-level range will work fine, and DCS, Electrolux, GE Monogram, etc., will be more than adequate for at least 75% of people who are only cooking because somebody's got to put dinner on the table tonight. Most people don't rate cooking as an activity they would voluntarily spend a lot of time on. My friend with the Garland only has it because her partner loved to cook and put it in. But her partner died ten years ago, and all my friend does is boil water for pasta every once in a while. She can think of a dozen things she'd rather do than cook, so the Garland goes pretty much unused. For her, it would be a waste of money to pay for open burners over closed burners....See Morewekick
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