Tung Oil Regrets - need advise please
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VOC laws make it impossible to get tung oil finish
Comments (3)Can't help you on the PenSeal (try calling the manufacturer?) but you can mail order a VOC compliant version of Waterlox directly from the manufacturer - link below. A lot of stores that used to carry Waterlox aren't carrying the VOC compliant version because it was hard to get for a while during the switch-over. I must have called twelve or thirteen stores to find it when I was testing finishes for woodwork. Here is a link that might be useful: Waterlox shopping page...See MorePlease advise: will I regret a lowered cooktop height?
Comments (23)I have a huge corner desktop in my kitchen that is lower than the other countertops. I use it for rolling out when baking and I have now found it indispensible when using a Fagor 8 quart multicooker. I am 5’8” and even at my height, seeing down into that pot would be difficult if it were on a 36” high counter. We will only be considering induction for our next cooktop and I have thought that I may consider purchasing a standalone induction unit to try and I would definitely use it on the lower cabinet rather than on my regular cooktop. If it weren’t for resale, i would probably have just one or two of the Breville Smart Freak induction units that are professional level accurate (but very pricey) and forego a standard cooktop and locate them on the lower area. Our local kitchen center once did a kitchen with a lowered cooktop and it made so much sense to me when I stood at it, since my shoulders and arms could relax. I know resale is important, but so is how comfortable you will be in this kitchen. And would anyone say that the kitchen above with the ”submerged” cooktop would be a dealbreaker for resale? I don’t think so!...See Morehow do I eliminate tung oil streaks?
Comments (17)skanman, Well, I did preface my comments by apologizing first but I indeed could not resist challenging an argument that, by its own merits, contradicted itself at every point, turn and conclusion. I certainly did not mean to offend bob but merely wanted to point out that just because Waterlox mixes tung oil with solvents and other chemicals to create a finish does not mean it no longer has tung oil in it as bobÂs argument implies. Similarly, just because bread is not flour does not mean bread no longer has flour in it. It is a line of logic truly in its simplest and most basic form. And, for the record, Waterlox is a very good product. Bob goes further to illustrate his point by referencing that the Waterlox MSDS data sheet does not even include tung oil as an ingredient concluding that his statement must then in fact be true. I believe the MSDS data sheet is more technically referred to as the Material Safety Data Sheet which is required disclosure under applicable labor and product safety laws to list the contents of products, certain contents of which are considered hazardous, and for which safe handling procedures are required. I must admit that I found it interesting on the surface that the Waterlox MSDS sheet in fact does not list tung oil at all. However, not withstanding my ignorance and all, I added the components as listed on the Waterlox Original product MSDS. According to both hands and feet and my trusty abacus, I came up with 75.06% (wouldnÂt Jethro Clampett be so proud!) which does not account for 100% of the material. Since tung oil in its purest form is not considered a toxic substance, could it be that the remaining 23.96% is TUNG OIL that is not required to be listed because it is NON-TOXIC and approved for use in food preparation areas? I merely speculate this to be the case but have called the Waterlox technical line to confirm (since wikipedia did not know the answer to this mystery). But skanmanÂdude! I mean really dude! Seriously though dude!!! DUDE??? Just exactly what was that in your post that started with "WHOA" ? Sorry but I could not follow it or its point past "WHOA!". I mean DUDE, really, get some ventilation in that high VOC paint room of yours. You say "sticking to your vegitarian analogy think of boca burgers containing 15-40 percent beef. youd be hard pressed to find a true pure tung oil, the only one I know of can be bought through the "real milk paint company,Â" HUH? REALLY DUDE! You need to ventilate that room of yours. BTW, your milk company has 100% pure light tung oil for $16.95 and dark for $20, not $40. OH, and wikipedia defines tannins, which I am very familiar with, but neither wikipedia nor I are familiar with tannin oils. Anyway, before you advise well wishers go to wikipedia before flexing their ignorance, maybe you should oxygenate and practice the same....See MoreTung Oil finish showing or collecting dirt?
Comments (15)The wood looked like it was probably unstained, and it is gorgeous. I would prefer it over most oak, but white oak is much more appealing to me than the red oak that is more common here. I talked to a couple of guys today -- one about the materials and one about the installation -- both about finishes. One likes the oil finishes but says a lot of folks think they are too much upkeep. Our discussion reminded me of my marble counters -- in a good way. The other guy said the oil finishes show dirt and most people are happier with a polyurethane finish -- also reminded me of the marble, but more of the nay sayers. He did suggest getting a large enough piece of something to treat with the oil and set on the floor where we can walk on it and the dogs track across it. I do have some smooth finish plywood in the garage that I could do that with. I am still making inquiries on the availability and checking out the finishes. I'm looking for smaller quantities of the stuff to sample, but it's not easy to find so far. I did have 2 people say it would be feasible to lay the flooring, sand and then finish room by room at least with the oil finishes. That may help us get it all done. Moving out for a mooth or more is not an option with 2 dogs, a 19 year old cat and one in high school with lots of activities, but I'd like to get it done before the holidays begin. I didn't think that would be a problem, but it's looking a bit tight....See More30years1moretime
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