Is the dining room through the other yellow door?

What's on the other side of the fridge wall?

can your washer and dryer be moved closer to the bedrooms in a closet perhaps?

what is the sill height of the corner Windows?

Thanks for the reply! Yes, the dining room is through the other yellow door. The living room is on the other side of the fridge wall. Unfortunately, all of our closets are tiny with bi-fold doors...no room to move the WD and keep it on the main floor. Can't convince my DH to move it to the basement. The sill height is 23" making the windows fairly low to the floor in that corner.

Great job on drawing up your kitchen layout!

I think it is very smart to start here on GW. These folks are very thorough. Even more so then many so called 'professionals'.

They need major details. Posting a whole floor plan, showing the entire house helps them the most. Answering all the questions that benjisbride's asked, and then some, and soon you will be above water!!!

I think I'd skip the banquette and open the wall to the dining room? Is opening that wall an option?

You did not draw in a table at your banquette seating, when things aren't drawn it generally is because they really can't be done. You should consider that a warning sign that that is probably not the correct way to go.

I fought to get a side by side washer dryer closet in my house, so I have a hard time supporting a smaller stackable situation :-)

I played a bit and ended up with this. You have enough depth to get 30" deep drawers. If the kitchen is open to the dining you may not feel the need for seating in the kitchen proper.

This is just an idea. It is undoubtedly flawed, but may spark other ideas...

You're shopping for the wrong thing. You need a person, not a cabinet.

Thanks everyone for your input!! I don't think I can open the wall to the dining room as the budget wouldn't really allow for that. And directly on the other side of that wall is a pair of sliders (same wall as the sink) that leads to the patio, and then there are stairs to the basement. I do think the banquette seating would be pretty tight but hadn't really planned on having a table there - just thinking of a place someone could sit and talk to to cook. :) I like the idea of 30" deep cabinets! And I really like the KD I've been talking to, but it seems in our small community, all the KDs are tied to their product lines. Is that uncommon?

KDs are tied to their lines.

Before you get too excited about 30 inch deep cabinets, price them. A lot of times people end up using regular size cabinet and pulling them away from the wall so that they get the additional countertop but they cannot afford the additional cabinet space.

Do you want to keep the washer and dryer in their current enclosure? Or can the enclosure disappear and a countertop be put in the washer and dryer? Do you need extra countertop?

You will get better input if you provide a whole house floor plan so that people can see how the house is put together.

I'll try to put together information on the house floorplan this evening. It's a small ranch - and very boxy. No walk-in closets to consider robbing from, even our "master bath" (only called that because it's attached to the main bedroom) is tiny with just a shower, lav and commode. I'm hoping to tackle the bathrooms in the next 3 years, after the kitchen. I should also mention that in about 18 mos. we will likely be empty nesters so even less traffic to consider.

I was planning to tear down the W/D enclosure but don't have another place in the house for the appliances, unless we moved them to the basement (I thought stacking would be a good space saver). I'm not going to win moving them to the basement with DH as he does the laundry.

I'm not sure if I need more countertop, or just more functional countertop. I thought the peninsula would help with this. The countertop on the fridge wall is hard to use now because there is an upper that juts out to hold the microwave, besides the fact it is right in the doorway. All good things to think about.

I really like that idea! That would open up the space, moving function to the exterior walls, and the room would feel more connected to the dining area. Thanks, benjesbride!

Based on the info we have, I like benjesbride's plan but I think we really need the floorplan for the entire house to give you the best help. The problem is really the W/D. People on this forum have come up with some amazingly creative solutions for moving the laundry so I wouldn't nix the possibility of finding a better location. Personally, I would prefer not having W/D in the garage but would that be a possibility? I sure don't blame your DH for not wanting to lug laundry to the basement but the garage might not be bad.

The problem I see with the peninsula layout is that the cooktop is on a rather narrow countertop, venting is more of an issue with this layout, and dishwasher will be in the prep space and open to prevent use of the cooktop. Given the amount of space I would probably stick with a range unless you need a cooktop for some reason (I did separate as I really wanted a 36" induction cooktop but otherwise I wouldn't have done this!). If you left a peninsula I would make it wider and do stool seating at it rather than banquet seating without a table. I do like Benjes layout, and would also be inclined to move the W/D into the garage to make better use of the kitchen. Or put them side by side with countertop over them, and uppers above - but I guess fine as is if stacking wouldn't bother you.

I'm attaching some pictures of the rest of the
house. So sorry if this is TMI. You can tell from the plans that the original owners
were tinkering with the kitchen. I'm not sure if what we have now is
original, or an update from the original plans. I have closeups of each room if posting them would be helpful. Thanks!

I like your home's general layout. I'd suggest you tackle the bathrooms first. I think there's room for a washer and dryer back there. If the washer and dryer move, that totally changes the possibilites for your kitchen.

Ditto, on both counts. I spent some time before going to bed last night trying to figure out where to move the W/D without remodeling the bed/bath area and the only thing I could come up with is a smaller, stacking unit in the coat closet. As empty-nesters, that should work for you although it might mean more loads than your DH might want to do for the next 1.5 years. But if that doesn't appeal, would you like us to help you with remodeling the baths so there's room for W/D there?

What are the dimensions of the linen closet by the bath? Stacking a W/D there is close to water and sewer and fewer steps to where the clothing ends up anyway.

I would love to hear what we could do in the bath areas to make room for the W/D! We would love to have them out of the kitchen. Thanks!!

I cobbled together a layout from our house plan. The poor folks here on GW have seen me post our main bath too many times, but I'm so happy with our choices. I absolutely had to have a side by side washer and dryer because I like to sort and store dirty clothes in the laundry area; no dirty clothes in bedrooms here. Another benefit to the laundry nook is that above the shelf I use for sorting clothes, there are two more shelves above that are great for storing TP, costco sized toiletries, lightbulbs, first aid, etc. The trick was putting a 38x42 shower in the main bath and the tub/shower combo went in the master. To me this is logical because in my world baths involve a parent, so why not just put it in the parent's bathroom.

I can't read the dimensions on your plan, but if you too want to try to get a side by side washer and dryer nook, here's a place to start. It may or may not fit in your space, but if it interests you I can work it out on graph paper if you provide measurements.

@practigal The measurements of the hallway linen closet are 32"x12".

That's a great layout benjesbride. I'm attaching a little closer picture of the bath layout. The room by the linen closet is 7'4" x 8' and the second bath attached to the master bedroom is 5'x8'. Thanks!

I am with BB that if there was anyway to have the w/d side by side rather then the stacked, I would really try for that. But either way, getting it out of the kitchen would be my first goal.

Since you said you'll be empty nesters soon, could you steal some space from the one bedroom and access it from the hall with bifold doors? Something like this?

Do you think we would need to allow for 60"x36" - seems like our LG front loaders are 27x39x30? I think that would leave a 3'x2' closet...is that too small? Not that it is my first priority, but I do want to keep in mind potential resale - not in our immediate plans of course.

I don't think you have enough length to have a shower stall and a side by side washer and dryer. It looks like you could have a 4'x3' shower (which is a nice size, I think) plus a stackable washer and dryer. In this configuration, the washer and dryer is probably best accessed from the hall.

So I can get my bearings, does the W/D start approximately where the linen closet is now?

Yes :-)

Nice plan for moving the W/D, benjesbride. I really would do that first. You will have so much more room to play with layouts in your kitchen after making that change, hcvande. And, for your DH, the laundry will be so close and convenient to the bedrooms. It's easier to grab a few dish towels/cloths and take them to the bedroom area than to lug all the clothes across the house.

Thanks everyone for the great ideas. Lots to think about for sure. I really appreciate the help!

That layout by benjisbride is the most logical place. I think the space I suggested would take more expense, which might be too much.

For example, on my idea, I would want to move the entry door to #3 bedroom. Not sure, but first thought is maybe the top corner entering bedroom on the front entry side and door swing against the hallway wall???

That would mean moving electrical for the switch to turn on the light. That is something I always forget to think about! ;-)

So I am sure that is probably more then you want to do. BB's idea is the easiest. I would do that for sure. Especially if you are looking at resale!

A w/d in the kitchen would be a no go for many buyers. I watch house hunters international sometimes, and I only have seen that in other countries. I am assuming you are in the US so that would be weird for most buyers.

It probably depends where you are. In the kitchen is obviously not my favorite place for a W/D but where I am (Bay Area) there are lots of small 1920s houses with no basement and detached garages. I looked at many houses that had the W/D in the kitchen - which quite frankly was much better than the many houses with W/D in the tiny 6 foot high basements that DH couldn't stand up in! Glad my house doesn't have either, but it isn't too uncommon around here.

Everyone's feedback has really helped me think about the bigger picture in this process. I believe our home would be considered mid-range for our community of 10,000 people. It's about 1,280 sq. ft. in a well-established, but older neighborhood near the park. If we had to sell it, it would probably attract young families (it's what we were looking for anyway as a young family). That being said, I think it might be more important to have a little more room to do laundry in the kitchen (as much as it's not ideal), than the hallway. And I think the common bathroom off the hallway would probably need the tub, in order to care for younger children vs. the tub in the small master space. I'm really leaning toward leaving the W/D in the kitchen and opening the wall up more to the dining room. I really appreciate the brainstorming on these boards. I have to be careful though, as benjesbride has me excited about updating the bathrooms now. :)

Well, if you want to leave the W/D in the kitchen, and still favor a stacking pair, could you turn them 90 degrees from their current position and recess them into the garage? That is, build a little nook for them next to the step. If your garage is small like mine, space is at a premium there also, but the nook could be built leaving storage space underneath for small items. Whether that proves an advantage to the planning, I am not sure, because you will still need space in front of them for access.

It would be nice to have a kitchen plan that can take advantage of the deep windows somehow, but that takes someone with much more imagination than I have.

I think we could turn the W/D 90 degrees...I don't think there isn't anything on the other side of that garage wall that would cause problems. I don't know if moving the plumbing there would be tough or not? Would it have to come through the concrete? Not sure at all how any of that works.

A few ideas.

I'm thinking a corner sink and a half wall b/w the kitchen and the DR. I never had a corner sink, but some love their corner sinks, some not so much.

I kept stacked W/D in the kitchen and have a storage bench and a coffee table in front of the corner windows. MW is next to the fridge. I have 21" deep cabs on that wall.

More pictures.

If you decide to move the W/D to the bedroom hall, maybe this can be an option.

For that short of a distance, the pipes can be re-routed over the slab. You will need to allow space for that. I allowed 6" in the drawing (yellow line) but that may not be enough. I'm not sure. It will have to be measured. The pipe could be hidden behind a false wall. Maybe make the wall counter-height so if you use the rolling cart idea, it can be slid up against the false wall and extend the counter on the cart a few inches.

I gave you 42" to stand in front of the W/D for access. That might be a few inches short. 48" might be more comfortable. I think you'd want to play with it and assess what works best for DH. It depends on how big he is and if he's a bender or a squatter. I'm imagining stacking front-loaders. If you get regular stackers, he wouldn't have to bend as much.

You wanted a chair for visitors so you could slide a chair into that space, something light and easy to move, so it's easy to get it out of the way while doing laundry.

The only advantages I see to turning and moving the W/D this way is that it means someone can load/unload without blocking the door to the garage and it gives you that little space for the chair.

Thanks, funkycamper.

@sena01..somehow I missed your post. Wow!! I love this layout. And I love the software you're using. This is really awesome. Thanks so much for another possibility.