Older hybrid teas
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Comments (12)My Perpetually Yours is still a baby, but bloomage is promising, looks like a lot of blooms in clusters (about 5-10). The blooms itself are not big, I would say around 2-3", fragrance is good too and quite fresh. Foliage so far is very clean for me without spraying, also somewhat smaller leaves, a bit inbetween wichurana' and mini's. I don't know if it would do well in your climate, did not seem to mind our heat wave all that much, but of course that's still cooler than where you are (Jude the Obscure and Constance Spry were wilting horribly though). Narrow Water I placed in full sun, pure clay, to somehow cover that corner and shade roots of the Japanese cherry... I did not mulch it, and did not fertilize it in time, but it does not mind at all, does not seem to notice the hot weather either. Really good rose. First flush lasted about a month and is finally ending, so I will see what he does next. He did not seem to drop blossoms during heat wave either, foliage is also very clean....See MoreAn Unhappy Medium
Comments (14)The HT beds are much too small for much deviation from HTs. New Dawn, propagated from a plant found at the site, is replacing ramblers on the wall. I think I have that rambler, however it might not make it through a winter one year. It's a mid-pink multiflora thing, and multiflora hybrids hate me. Right now the NPS has started a major reevaluation of the overall site plan. It has put us into a holding pattern until certain decisions are made regarding the overall purpose of the entire estate. The biggest shock is that the restoration target date, which had been late 1930's for decades, is up for reconsideration. Once we are over that hurdle, I will probably be asking for shrub recommendations. Originally, the rose garden was surrounded by a wrought iron fence clothed in ramblers. As a federal property, the wrought iron didn't survive the materials drives of WWII. Replacing it is, and probably never will be, in the budget of either our organization or the Park Service. However, the garden restoration gurus are of the opinion that the rose garden would benefit from the return of a sense of enclosure. To my mind the obvious solution is some sort of small flowered shrub that can be kept within the outer bed boundaries (I don't remember whether they are 3 or 4 ft wide) is reliably hardy enough so not need continual replacement, and relatively disease resistant. The garden is currently sprayed by an outside contractor, but I periodically encounter undercurrents that make me think the days of routinely spraying a public garden are numbered. That will mean an almost complete rethinking of what is down there, but I do think that there is much good in reducing the number of HTs to a more manageable 500-600....See MoreOlder hybrid teas slower to establish?
Comments (18)hi, Melody, I live in the Puget Sound area of the PNW, zone 8b. I've grown Caroline Testout, Snowbird and Mme Jules Bouche, all own root. Snowbird died one cold wet winter while CT did over time (about 3-4 years) become a healthy, hefty rose. I gave it to a friend, who says it is doing well in her yard not far from me. I bought it because I had read it was grown all over Portland and thought it might do well up here, a little west of Seattle. I think it does fine, it is just very slow and needs as much heat as you can give it. I grow Mme. Jules Bouche in a warm spot with terrible soil and it has done well there. I plan to keep it. I finally gave up on Betty, but Gardens of the World and Grace Darling are finally doing well, although still small. I should note that the deer have browsed both of these though, so that also set them back. Gardens of the World seems to be a nice rose here. Here's a pic of it: I think putting Snowbird and CT in pots is a good idea. My roses with tea influence or tea struggle the most of all my roses. I finally put Devoniensis and Mme Melanie Willermoz in pots where they are doing better, even after four years in the ground. I am going to put them in the greenhouse this winter. Lady Hillingdon has done beautifully this summer though, best I've seen it, and it is in the ground. Not hybrid teas, but two others that do great here are Mutabilis and Golden Wings. I guess I have a thing for singles ... My soil is very sandy and gravelly, and I've learned I have to keep up with the fertilizing and watering because the soil here just does not retain nutrients or moisture. That has been part of my problem with the early hybrid teas. I think had I kept them in pots they would have done better a lot faster. Live and learn, huh? Gean...See MoreAnyone have experience with Broceliande?
Comments (22)Usually the stripees do not have classic exhibition form. Most of them pop open. And I actually like the fully open form better anyway, as it better shows off the stripes. I have Secret Recipe, but I just recently got it from Heirlooms, so it's too early for me to make any comment on it. The other striped mosses however are probably similar, and none of them has exhibition form either. Of those, I grow Strawberry Swirl and Rose Gilardi. Rose Gilardi is the better rose of the two. But I don't know of any exhibition form striped minis that hold that form for any length of time. I do take pics sometimes that show such form, but usually it's just becaue I happen to catch them at the right moment, not because they stay that way. As for Dreamcatcher's availability, I just took a look around and I don't see it anywhere. That's a shame. It's a nice rose and should be more available. It's a short climber and does hold good form for awhile. We had one last week in our auction. I got mine from the Uncommon Rose when they were still in biz, but they've been gone for 5 years now. And it's not going to get any better in the future -- The USDA is stopping imports of all garden roses to the U.S. from Europe/Japan etc effective Jan. 2012 due to some citrus root weevil issue, or so I hear. Lesmc -- In referring to Stars N Stripes, I was referring to the red/white stripe mini by Ralph Moore. There is however a Clements shrub rose called Stars and Stripes Forever that I think is a dog and is soon to be outahere. Stars and Stripes Forever grows like a climber and yes, it hardly ever blooms here either. And even when it does bloom, its blooms have all the same faults as Scentimental, which I also disliked and got rid of. If you want a red/white striped big rose, you can't beat Fourth of July....See Moresmithdale1z8pnw
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