Microsoft will screw over the consumer at every opportunity. Just look at the scam that they tried with the nonsense that sellers of consumer electronics (vs. actual business computers) were only supplied with Windows 8. The business environments, thase people that actually needed to get something done, went on using Windows 7. For years now, virtually 99%+ of business computers were delivered with Windows 7 while the consumers had Windows 8 shoved down their throats. The higher end HP computers know as Workstations, were 99/9% Windows 7 for YEARS after the sleazballs at MS were telling consumers that "all computers come with Windows 8. As an HP dealer, I heard the horror stories of my customer's wives,parents, and kids that fell for the Windows 8 scams. I'm disgusted because I ended up rescuing many of these non-business customers.

No wonder, so many consumers like Apple computers!

The providers of "technology" to consumers like Best Buy, Staples, Office Max, Office Depot, etc. continued to lie to their customers and told them that Windows 7 didn't exist anymore and they had to accept Windows 8. They did this because the sleazeballs at MS told them they had to. Most people don't realize that those vendors are NOT authorized to sell computers but provide products from the consumer electronics divisions of those companies. There is a huge difference between the junk that says HP at those vendors and actual HP computers used by real business customers. Buyer BEWARE!

I would be very suspicious of MS attempt to work people to Win10 so they can own your information, control what you do, and only rent you software. Be Very, Very scared.

Just uninstall the "critical update" (another incredible lie) called KB3035583 and then hide it so it can't reinstall. As a business consultant, I should be fired by a customer if I allowed them to use Windows 8 or fall for the Win 10 scam. We will look at it in a year and see.

personally I love Win 10 - have installed on several machines both "fresh" and upgrades. I think MS finally got it "right". Be sure to go into "Settings" and fix up all the privacy settings - MS was a bit ambitious there. No problems since the release.

This is my question again: My Dell Desktop Windows 7.0 Home Edition....has Windows 10 available ready to be installed, BUT.....I haven't yet....How long will they give me this option.....I am still on the fence and waiting until October 1st....anyone know this answer?

not sure how long they will offer it free ... but you have 30 days after install to remove it if you don't like it ... just keep all past passwords handy .

As Aputernut stated, you have up to one year from the release of July 29th, 2015 to install Windows 10 for Free. I also agree with her, Why Wait? I originally was only going to install it on one of our seven eligible devices just to see how I liked it (5 Laptops, 1 Desktop and 1 Tablet). Within the week I had all seven up and running Windows 10! Don't get me wrong here, I still like Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 (didn't really care for Windows 8). My favorite feature on Windows 10 is Cortana! I have it on my Windows Phone and just love it!

I also have a Nokia Windows Phone and am patiently waiting for the Windows 10 Upgrade for it. I upgraded it from Win 8 to Win 8.1 and this phone is in the list to receive the Win 10 update. Once released I won't hesitate to upgrade!

I didn't have any problems with Norton's being on any of my computers during the install. The problem that I did have was that I had to Reinstall Norton's Afterwards. So I would agree, Uninstall Norton's and then Reinstall after Windows 10 is installed and set up. BTW, I did have the same problem with one of our computers that had AVG Anti-Virus on it. I had to Reinstall after Windows 10 was installed.

Cortana........isn't that the thing that records every key stroke, emails, checks for games to see if they are legitimate,etc.????? I need to go back to 10 forum previews and check that out.

Cortana is kind of cool. I asked her several times for Weather.. she tells me and gives the current report.

I guess because i'm in the south, Florida.. when I ask her Brown Dog... she opens a web page search on bing to Brown Dawg.

. I noticed my microphone is always on so she's always listening. I'm not much of a curser but I wondered, does Microsoft tie together errors and curse words - if so, they can learn what aggravates people the most :)

(muted my mic, in case I eat too many beans, really don't want to see beano and bean advertisements)

Cortana Isn't always on, you need to click on the Microphone for her to hear you. Ask her "Who's Your Daddy"? Then Ask her "Who's Your Mommy"? With some things you ask she'll Actually Answer you and other's you'll get a Bing Search.

Emma, Don't worry, she doesn't record your voice or your keystrokes. Nope, doesn't check your email either!

Cortana is not a spy for MS, she's simply a voice activated search engine/browser and a personal assistant for you if you wish, and she can be turned OFF if you choose not to use her. I use AVG2015 on my 4 PC's 2 LT's/2 DT's on my home network and did not have to reinstall on W10 upgrade, or uninstall before hand. My android tablet does not run windows so N/P's there.

I am starting to read complaints of MS data mining with W10. I have not read enough to draw an informed opinion yet. At first blush I am concerned enough to read more in the future.

Here's an example of supposed occurrences,

http://www.majorgeeks.com/news/story/top_five_gripes_about_windows_10.html

Time will tell.

DA

According to the guys in the preview W10, it does. They even discuss how to get around it. They also discussed the games, say MS has no right to check any game except ones they make. They believe it.

You should read the link DA posted. I block google because they have been sited and paid big fines for the things they have done with info from sites. I certainly don't want Cortana. Also you cannot stop windows updates, system restore is a not a default program in Windows 10 I am assuming so you can't remove updates. Why do you think think they do that??????

I don't worry about my info because there is nothing on my PC I couldn't share with the world. How about yours.

"Windows 10 has a reputation for “phoning home” more often than its predecessors, and while that’s primarily true, much of this was already present in Windows 8—and an awful lot of it is present in other products like Android, iOS, and Chrome. That’s not to say all of those settings are good, just that there’s very little new happening here."

Another read for those interested

http://lifehacker.com/what-windows-10s-privacy-nightmare-settings-actually-1722267229

Zep, that link didn't work for me.

What error did you get ? It works for me. I'm using the Palemoon browser. I'd be interested if you Google " Windows 10 privacy nightmare settings lifehacker" see what links come up for you.

Mostly blank page with one or two pictures that change all the time. It say lifehacker in the address.

They just announced Cortana can wake pc's with newer intel chips from sleep mode by simply saying something like Wake up Cortana. She's listening always ... there was an option to have her not listen but it seems removed or maybe its just missing on the insider version ..next wave 2 preview. Used to be able to say Hey Cortana and she was activated to listen, no mouse press needed.

Not that it matters much to me.. Microsoft can have all the info they want to serve me all the ads they want and fix all my computer problems too automatically with their so called spying.

I have an adblocker & do not tracker, so I wont see many ads and I disabled Cortana actually just trying to get the mic to turn off and save some processing... mostly just want my laptop efficient on power and as cool running as possible. I ended up muting the mic and that stopped the mic running process. I don't need Cortana, I'm a faster typer but a quiet talker.

I do not believe as some sceptics do, that MS are bad guys, the same folks who have been developing OS's for our PC's for years. they came up with a great idea for W10 making it very user friendly and offering it free (and 10 yrs. of support) so that millions of users can be on the same OS, and receiving the same important security updates, to keep the real bad guys out of our PC's. As stated before you can set your updates as you choose to receive them and you can also turn Cortana off if you choose, same as always I am in control of my PC and always have been. All 4 of my PC's are HP's and I love them all, also HP has been great to me on any issues I have had which were only a few. My one PC was making a strange noise from new so I contacted HP, and they immediately sent me a pre paid box to send it to them, they put a new HD in it, put all my things back in it, and returned it to me in 2/3 days. Also I spoke to one of the big shots by phone, and we had such a nice chat, he even gave me his ext. # incase I wanted to speak to him on anything. He was thrilled that I had several PC's and all HP's he even extended my new warranty for another year, just incase, but it was not needed.

I too have no "important' data or State secrets stored on my system so I have nothing to hide. Now work is a different story. In fact, as of yesterday IT had not upgraded from W7. For them the jury is still out as to W10 merits, and potential data mining.

I am wondering why MS fails to advise users who upgrade to W10 as to some of W10's features possibly being viewed as intrusive, and why in reported cases that users have to jump through numerous hoops to disable some unwanted features.

Since I can only use one system for personal use at a time a single desktop is all I need. Maybe an entry level laptop someday as a toy. So that would make it all of two.

That's just me as I am not a pack rat or a hoarder of anything.

DA

Da, that is what my laptop is, a toy and to learn about W 8. I ended up using it for travel to watch movies when I am alone in the hotel. Someone asked me "wasn't I lonely at night by myself", my reply was, "oh, I wasn't alone, I spent the night with Sean Connery. LOL

I'm that guy that really doesn't think Microsoft is out to get us. We don't here anyone saying this about Apple, their Operating Systems a Free. How about Linux, Free too! I'm sure Microsoft has an Agenda, just not 100% sure what it is? I do think they are trying to make Computing safer with the Windows Operating System.

Seems like everything is moving in the Direction of APP's and Microsoft is jumping on the band wagon. Nobody is saying anything about Apple or Android using APP's. MS started their move with the Release of Windows 8 a Huge Jump and Risk when everyone loved Windows 7 so much.

Could just keep going on and on. But again, don't really think Microsoft is trying to spy on us or anything like that, or at least nothing that's not already being done to us thru Apple and Android already.