Marvin casement window sash removal help
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Comments (6)sorry window guy didnt mean to take your name. With regard to shimming the sides.. there are NO shims on the sides, only the tops and bottoms. so it can't be that they were shimmed "too much" on the sides to cause the bowing. They're saying it could have been due to the spray foam insulation (used the Good Stuff), however the instructions do NOT say i can't use it. And if screwing into the sides of the frame would stop this problem, how come the instructions say to only nail through the fins? i'm not disputing that a PERFECT installation wouldnt solve this problem. My issue is that the design of the windows makes them more susceptible for the bowing to "pinch" the rubber. If i went with Andersens this wouldnt be a problem because on the 400 series the sides of the window are flexible....See MoreSash Kit advice - Marvin or Windsor?
Comments (14)1st measure first, typically you want a whole number since it will be cheaper. measure at 3 points and go with narrowest measurement. If is measures over a whole number you will have to shim the jambs if it is measuring under, even an 1/8 you will need to order that window under sized or modify you jambs to accept a stock size. You need to make sure your windows are very square if using a window that can not be cut down. First thing to check is the distance between the stool and the blindstop, you need 3 3/8 spacing so the tracks can move freely and don't bind. I move the blindstop to get this spacing. Then check the the width of the jamb, shim it out if needed the full width of the jamb, I use 1/8 x3 3/8 shims cut from paneling. sometimes the jambs are tilted and need narrower shims behind the 3 3/8 shims. Next put the brackets on, they should be installed with nails or a specialty staple gun. Do not use screws since the heads will create pressure points. you may have to drill first so you do not break the jambs Then put jambliners in, make sure they are completely snapped in to the brackets. Then install the window, it push the lower sash down , if it goes down to hard it may have been shimmed to tightly, if it springs up on it's own it was not shimmed enough. Make sure when the sashes are closed that they make full contact with sill and the head of the jamb other wise they will leak air. I use windows that i can cut so they meet the jamb and sill.If cutting always start with bottom sash, if is out of square you will need to cut it at a compound angle, if it is square and needs to be cut for height only then cut the top of the upper sash. next make sure there is no movement up and down if there is shim behind the upper sash in the jamb with 1 3/8 shims till it is tight. I would recommend flash the wells and blinstops with aluminum coil since in finishes the look , andcovers hard to paint areas, and seals in the lead paint....See MoreNew Marvin casement won't close properly - help w/ adjustment?
Comments (5)+1 to roof35's comments. Sounds like a botched install. Plumb and level are of little consequence (within reason of course), the main concern is that its square. Your installer should have put his level away and adjusted the window based on the sash to frame reveals which would have alleviated this. Regarding the hardware, Marvin uses the same (or similar) hardware as any other window company. I can see why you might think that is looks insufficient, however it is all engineered with maximum capacities based on size, weight, etc. Reputable manufacturers like Marvin are very conservative in staying well within those parameters for long term performance. It sounds like you are now stuck in the unfortunate situation where you sourced the windows and hired a guy to install them. This situation results in failure at a very high rate and inevitably ends in finger pointing. Your best bet at this point is to get the installer and a manufacturer or supplier rep there at the same time to hash things out and come up with a gameplan to address....See Morecasement windows bottom sash rot, is it repairable? or worth to repair
Comments (14)How old are the units again? I realize that you do not want to replace all of them, but more often than not, the condition of one is indicative of the condition (or impending condition) of the rest. In this case, it is not like this unit was behind a tree, bush, or subjected to any more weather or moisture than was likely experienced by the other units. Might be time for a careful inspection of the remaining units and look at the project, unfortunately, in more totality. This is not the rule, just an observation. Hopefully the other units are just fine at the end of the day....See More- 11 years ago
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