How to support 15 inch soapstone overhang in 8 foot island
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Comments (13)We have a 60" long x 18" wide overhang with our island. Our granite guy said we didn't need to support it, but I beg to differ and supported it just in case. We drilled a 3/4" plywood sheet (just smaller than the entire island)into the top of the cabinets and then routed in 1/2" steel bars (these were also just smaller than the island) and drilled these into the plywood. The granite was laid on top (and glued/epoxied). Although you can't see the plywood unlesss you bend over or are sitting under the overhang, we chose to cover the edges of the plywood with thin strips of wood that matches our cabinets, so it looks like the support extends as part of the cabinets. We did all this because we wanted a clean look with no corbels, etc. It is great (I had to stand on the island to change a light bulb) and I am very happy that I chose to support it...now I don't have to worry!...See MoreISO What You Used To Support Your Soapstone Overhang..
Comments (3)Sorry I can't help with materials. But you need to get this engineered - an experienced installer should have been able to do this for you. Without getting too technical, since gravity is acting at a 90 degree angle to your horizontal surface, the moment is basically the weight (force of gravity acting on the dense soapstone) times the length of your lever arm (the max overhang of 20"). Ignoring the fact that the weight is evenly distributed over that 20", let's be conservative and say the moment is the entire weight (OK, let's say just the middle half) times the 20". So that would be about 4ft x 2ft = 8sf x 22 lbs/sf = 176 lbs x let's call it 2ft unsupported = 352 ft-lbs of moment or torque just to support the middle. The sides being shorter would have less moment so need less support, as of course the whole thing if you cut it like you're considering. I would say that if you could live with a single leg in the middle that was capable of supporting 400 ft-lbs, you would probably be OK. Two legs centered between the edge and the arc would be even better. If you want brackets to hang this off of, we need an engineer familiar with materials characteristics (rolled steel vs wrought iron, etc.) to tell you the material and the size of the bracket. I'd say (but this is really a SWAG) for the middle you'd need something that supported at least a foot's worth of that 20" overhang (if you stay with it), but I don't know how far down the wall it would have to be (attached to stud) so that the torque didn't push the bottom leg of the bracket right through your drywall....See Morewooden island overhang support (pic)
Comments (26)Thank you for all these informative comments. I wish I had more expertise. I'm kind of getting a vibe from my contractor, because we both know the carpenter screwed up and forgot the overhang in the first place (at which time proper supports could have been integrated) like, 'Just give her whatever she asks for.' And he and the carpenter are probably getting a vibe from me like, 'I don't have a ton of faith in anything these guys say.' So I'm grateful for all these comments. To chiefneil: I'm glad to hear you say keep the 9" planks, since that's what I"m doing. Could you explain a little more how to support them? I do have two athletic teenaged sons and their friends to worry about, and I did think about just putting plain wooden legs on either side - but no one seems to like this idea. I guess I should have added that the top cannot simply be removed and put back to add flat steel beams - it had to go in in two pieces because of my low ceiling and the posts at either end of the island. Taking it off at this point means destroying it. So any supports will have to be added after-the-fact. Legs and corbels at either end will work. Steel brackets will work. But now I'm nervous about what effect that has on the wood... Staceyneil (any relation to chiefneil?): are you sure your overhang has no support? Maybe they built it in and it's invisible? Your situation makes me think I should leave well enough alone! Would love to hear from anyone who has a similar overhang, and how they support it - or don't... Thanks!...See MoreNeed help! Supporting granite overhang on island
Comments (20)Thank you, Joseph! I think the issue is that we have a much larger overhang than 15" planned. It is currently spec's for 41" (but is supported on the ends by 6x6 posts.) Of course, I never realized it was so wide. I am fine making it shallower, but was hoping to preserve one seating spot on each end. How do I support the center of the countertop (which would be about 8' between the posts at a depth of somewhere between 30"-41". Does that make sense? I was looking at cantilever brackets, but no one says how far of an overhang can be supported. My dad thought 4" Channel irons could work, but I have no idea....See Moremathteachr
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