That's weird. Isn't it usually the other way? In that it would revert to the dark green?

IDK. If so, glad mine's going to lime. I have more plain dark green than I know what to do with. I just repotted this a few weeks ago, but the urge to unwind everything to see exactly what's going on with the Brazil (& put a bigger trellis) is nagging at me.

I have a Philo that's all lime green. I wonder if it was a Brazil at one point??? It has one leaf on it that has a spot of dark green.

I'd much rather have variegated plants revert to whatever color that makes them variegated then plain old green. Looks real nice! Maybe you created a new cultivator a cross between brazil and lemon lime (or whatever the neon one is). It would be neat to have a plant that every other leaf was lime green like yours and the others be green.

I cut the reverting piece off to see what was going on. In the purple circle, there's a juncture, the lime leaves seem to be on a side branch from what was the main stem. The first lime leaf had a really odd shape, in the red circle.

Are you going to try to root it?

Yes, I cut off the 3 lowest leaves & stuck this in a bottle of water for a couple weeks until the root nubs elongate, swell, turn white.

The color change is due to more or less sun light. Very pretty!!

Hi Becky & welcome! TY for the suggestion. There are many other 'Brazil' vines in the same pot that aren't reverting, so that seems to negate that theory, though I really don't know what caused it.

I agree, it's very pretty. My Brazil/Brasil did this, also. The variegation on the leaves seemed pretty variable -- some leaves had narrow/thin "stripes" of lighter green, some wider; some stems grew all lime or all dark green. I found that caring, all in all. It'll be interesting to see if your lime version is stable.

Amanda

I think it has to do with what type of cells were used to spawn the leaves, if I understand variegation right. Maybe the dark green cells of that particular bud had been damaged in some way, so they are all lime green because the code for the dark green was removed from the plant physically somehow?

i know my hederaceums are always finding ways to hurt themselves.

Don't worry about the weird leaf. That's just what a brand new hederaceum looks like. I'd take a picture to show you mine, but....alas, I'm on my browser (so I have the ability to edit) and not the app. I can post pictures in the app, but not edit my posts. I choose editing capabilities.

The lime section remains. There's more to it, but I could only hold a few leaves back with 1 hand.

This vine doesn't know what it wants to do. It started with several lime leaves, then a few 'Brazil' leaves, and the newest leaf is solid lime again.

Actually I see some dark green on he leaf edges. Not entirely lime green.

Haha- I wonder why it does that? I don't know the history behind Brazil's creation, but it is a very confused plant.

I see that the original photo has several types of philodendron mixed in. I really like that! What is the name of the one with the red colored stems? I think I have that one but it is quite small.

That's Philodendron erubescens. Here's a newer pic of that group of plants, repotted a few weeks ago.

Beautiful! I looked at mine and it is labeled "Philodendron Anderson Red". I got it from Glasshouse. I am learning (here on this forum) that plants can have several different names (like pothos/Devil's Ivy/epipremnum) and they can all mean the same plant. So is your plant the same as mine? (maybe I should not post this here as it is not on topic??).

Plants are just engaging. Amazing thread.

TY, Massey & Laurie!

Massey, yes, most plants have several common names (nicknames) and a botanical name. Some plants have several botanical names for various reasons, one of which is that many Philos look quite different when they're very young vs. an older, mature plant, and this genus is still being more thoroughly investigated & sorted.

Without seeing your plant, it's hard to have an opinion. If you feel like taking its' pic & starting a discussion, you'll get opinions to compare. I'd love to see it!

Here it is. I hope it is one that grows into a vine. I really like the long vines on plants.

Also when I was taking the photo I took some photos of some others including my Brazil/Brasil philo. And I noticed it had some solid green dark leaves and some lime green leaves. I will post a photo of it as well.

Your adorable little red Philo could be a shrubby self-header or turn out to be more of a vine. Do the new leaves have 1 or 2 cataphylls? The vine ones seem to have just 1 vs. 2 on each leaf of the self-headers. I say seem to because I have several kinds of vines but don't have a collection of self-headers to observe. If that's not diagnostic, I hope someone will let us know.

Your 'Brazil' has made some cool leaves! They look more yellow on my screen. I'd love to get a stem like that on mine too! Love the display with the stool too.

Massey your red Philo looks like its going to be a self header.

I have no idea what a cataphylls is..and I don't know what a self header is. I took a couple more close up photos maybe to show if it has 1 or 2 cataphylls. I imagine they are on the stem?

This is fun! And I am learning so much. thanks both Tiffany and jamilalshaw!

A self header grows upright instead of vining.

Read

http://www.uky.edu/Ag/Horticulture/Geneve/teaching/plantpropwebpages/geneticselection/geneticchimera.pdf

But, not all variegated plants are chimeras.

So pretty! It looks like a vine, probably P. erubescens. On that one, the new leaf comes out of the petiole (leaf-stem) of the previous leaf and doesn't have separate cataphylls. On a self-header, each new leaf emerges from 2 cataphylls that eventually turn brown, shrivel, fall off.

I love philodendrons and this is a fun thread. I have learned a lot. I have some more philodendrons I will put photos up.

"Plain" Heart leaf but I think they are so pretty.

Here are some more.

This one was labeled: philodendron scandens varigatum:

this was philodendron hoffmannii:

This one looks kind of like "Brazil" but it has a cream colored center stripe:

This is my "Neon" or I have also heard it called "Lemon" philodendron:

My Micans:

And I believe this is a philodendron, maybe "Silver"? I have also seen pothos very similar but I think this is a philodendron:

Massey what gorgeous Philo's you have. I have Heart leaf, Prince of Orange, Brazil, and Neon as well.

I also have Super atom

Nice Jamila, how big will that get? I have read that Prince of Orange can get really big too.

Im not sure about Super atom but heres a pic of my Prince of Orange. It started out in a 6 inch pot and now its in a two gallon pot.

Here's a much better picture of my Prince of ORange

Massey516, self heading philos are usually very large landscape aroids with thick trunks to 4 or 5 inches in diameter. The most common self header is selloum aka bipinnatifidum, they're everywhere in landscapes here in Florida. True self headers grow upright until they get too top heavy and droop over, only to try and grow upright again. They grow long, thick, straight aerial roots at a downward angle from the trunk that root in several feet away to anchor the plant against heavy winds and from tipping over.

Philos like Prince of Orange are called semi-self headers, which are smaller plants with short, thick stems that produce leaves fairly thickly within a shorter length than vining types. A big semi-self header with multiple heads can grow to several feet across, usually much wider than they are tall. Other semi-self headers I can think of right now are Prince of Red, Autumn, and the gorgeous McColley's Finale with deep red new leaves. McColley's wife patented one in 1988 she called Baron but I've never seen it. I have a very large semi-self header that I collected as Big Red but is probably Week's Red Hybrid, 'wingspan' on it can be 4 or 5 feet or more.

Your 'Silver' philodendron is actually Scindapsus pictus. There are a couple of forms out there, one has more silver variegation than the other. The common 'Pothos' used to be in Scindapsus but has been moved to Epipremnum. I don't think pictus was moved but could be wrong.

Your Philo scandens variegata shows about as much variegation as I've seen on these. While new leaves have bright variegation, mine tend to lose it as leaves get older. Glasshouse is behind on their species names, scandens has been changed to hederaceum. Prior to scandens it was P. oxycardium, the 'name experts' keep changing it. Some experts consider your micans a variety of hederaceum rather than a species.

I'm very interested in your species Philo hoffmannii, that's a new one to me.

I'm pretty sure your green leaved philo with red stems is not the same as Tiffany's darker, reddish-leaved philo in her mixed pot. Besides the color difference, note that your leaves are narrower and more lance shaped. I think yours is a beautiful old hybrid called Red Emerald, like many other vining hybrid philos it has the species P. erubescens in it's genes.

Jamilashaw, how does your Super Atom grow? I bought a few a couple of years ago, think I'm down to two right now. I find it very, very slow and a picky grower. I keep changing soil mix and growing conditions hoping they'll take off but haven't found what it wants yet. I've heard it's a true self header but a miniature.

Russ

My Super atom does grow slow and is sensitive to light. I had to move it back from a East window! I have it in the 5:1:1 mix and it seems to like it.

Thanks Jamila, besides another mix I had them in 5-1-1 but roots rotted, I've changed to a more open, crunchier mix with extra perlite and pieces of styrofoam. It's definitely one of the most picky philos I've ever grown, especially for one with a plain green leaf. Difficulty usually comes with shimmering, satiny leaves like verrucosum, andreanum and others that need very high humidity.

Russ