I have a rose that wafts!!!!
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Wafting modern roses for no-spray garden
Comments (13)I'll suggest The McCartney Rose as my best modern HT wafter. Pros: the fragrance wafts and is fantastic (strong sweet damask similar to my nose like Madame Isaac Perreire & Comte de Chambord.) She's a very vigorous/tall grower and she doesn't ball in the rain. Cons- While I've read folks in other climates say she is extremely disease resistant, she does get a fair amount of BS here and she does not last well as a cut flower. I've kept her precisely because her fragrance wafts- even non rose people in my family walk in the yard and ask "oh! what's that smell?" I've tried about 200 or so roses over the last 10+ years and I'm no spray (but in the rainy pacific northwest.) I can name you some varieties I find quite fragrant, but they don't really waft their fragrances...I remember wafting fragrance on Victorian Spice, (Harkness floribunda-it was not disease resistant here so I got rid of it) and Maigold (a once blooming Kordes shrub that smells vaguely like orange juice/linseed. The bees also go bonkers for it-it blooms ahead of all my other roses.) Oh and I can smell the hedge of Mary Rose at the Heirloom display garden from across the parking lot-but that is because the strong myrrh smell makes me ill-LOL! I'm not sure if these will work in your climate, but if you are looking for wafting plants in general-also consider sweetbox (sarcococca confusa) and daphne odora. Sweetbox is a winter blooming shrub (blooming now in my area) with the most inconspicuous nothing flowers that float their fragrance all over the yard. Sweetbox blooms a few weeks earlier than Daphne Odora here-but that Daphne is one of my all time favorite fragrances. Here is a link that might be useful: The McCartney Rose...See MoreI don't have roses yet, but I do have......
Comments (16)Wow, we just got SPANKED with another microburst...I thought we were gonna catch a tornado that time, for sure! I had to shut down the 'puter and run and close all the windows. In that time I lost my post, I'll try again. Linda, I spoke to Century Oaks Peony Farm about Butterflies in Flight, and they maintain mine cannot be, since BIF are brand-new this year and mine have been here at leastfive years. My nieghbor behind us also has a HUGE bush of these, and I maintain they hav been around here for many years. However, yours 'could' be BIF, although I doubt they would be offered through Wal-Mart their first year. Cecily, here are a couple closer shots of the 'white' one. Sorry the pics are so yellow...it is so dark this morning that I had to use the light and I didn;t correct for color accuracy before uploading. Close enough, though. The outer petals (are they really sepals?) are a pale pink while the rest of the flower is white. The stamens have a lot of red, but no red flecks in the petals....See MoreSpeaking of "wafting" and fragrance in roses
Comments (8)Thank you, Diane for the article. I read it, very interesting. Soil chemistry plays a role. Here' a comment from HMF by Michael in Fremont, CA: "I should've updated my experience with Shocking Blue. It is not a strong grower and the flowers are disappointing...the scent is NOT pure lemon, only slight to moderate. I suspect that it doesn't like the alkaline soil here. I've found that my favorite roses in MA/MD smell different here, and not for the better. They have more of an anise/black licorice undertone (like Yves Piaget), although on the plus side, the fruity roses which I don't care for, smell better/sweeter. Like the rose, Secret (white shaded pink at edges) which in MA/MD had a hint of fruitiness, here is pure sweet, and one of my top all time picks for Fremont, CA - ridiculously strong grower, disease resistant, moderately shiny leaves, beautiful form & great scent. I haven't found a lavender I like as much. Memorial Day comes closest, scent is lovely, but the pale lavender (a litttle too pale for my ideal) fades to almost blush pink/white as the flower opens. On the other hand, if you like bicolors, Sheila's Perfume (yellow-peach edged pink) is my other top pick for Fremont. Also ridiculously strong grower, shiny leaves, disease resistant, great hybrid tea-like form, flowers like crazy and scent to die for. Hope that helps, take care, Mich (aka Michifur) ** I agree with Michael from Fremont. My soil is alkaline clay, and the fruit scent is very strong. So is the myrrh scent in Mary Magdalene. Early spring I put too much acid fertilizer on Mary, its frankincense scent went away. Once I scraped off the fertilizer, and watered her with my tap water, pH of 8 - her scent came back. Unforunately the scent on Jacques Cartier is mediocre in my alkaline clay, so I gave him away (he's stingy here). Asiatic lily - the tall pink one smells good here, but not much scent for Campanula in England. Oriental lily (Stargazer) is wickedly strong, that I had to remove it from my front door. It was just too overwhelming. Hot temp. also make certain scent stronger. Niels from Denmark observed that when he visisted U.S. garden in hot summer, he was knocked off by the STRONG scent of The Prince and Jude the Obscure. Yes, at above 80's Jude Smelled GREAT at the rose park, but not this weekend at low 70's. In contrast, my Austin Wise Portia smells good only when the temp is below 70's and damp, same with Charles Darwin and Radio Times....See MoreRose Fragrance That Wafts
Comments (16)treehugger101 -- Virtually all of my roses came as bands from Rogue Valley Roses, Long Ago Roses, Heirloom Roses, Angel Gardens, Burlington Roses, and the now defunct Vintage Gardens. A few came as gallon-size plants from Roses Unlimited and Rose Petals Nursery. First, I'd like to know where you're located -- I've figured out what works for me here as far as pushing growth in bands before planting, but this may not work for you. Also, recommending a nursery would be related to how far from it you live. When my first round of band roses came in 2013, they were potted-up in a mix of equal parts peat moss, Bovung dehydrated manure, and shredded hardwood mulch. Those tiny bands which went into 1-gal containers had 1/2 cup of Jobe's Organic Knock Out Rose Food added, while those which seemed more vigorous went into 2-gal containers with double the fertilizer. The containers were set out in April or May (depending on when they arrived) in full-sun and were kept amply watered by rain until about June, when I had to supplement with hose water. They were then planted out by August. This year, I changed my mix to 3 parts peat moss, 1 part Bovung, 1 part perlite, and 1 part vermiculite. I also switched to Garden-Tone fertilizer simply because I found big bags at a good price, and I added 1/2" of used coffee grounds as a top-layer. Most of the roses which came this year are Chinas, Teas, and Polyanthas, and they are growing VERY fast in this mix. Some were recently planted in the ground, but the rest will remain container plants and brought into the garage for Winter. This time of year I find myself giving those still in pots daily drinks from the hose. If you have bad luck with bands, another consideration is the types of roses you're buying. While many Hybrid Teas, Floribundas, and Grandifloras will do fine on their own roots, there are many others which don't. Generally, the roses I mentioned previously do just fine without the extra vigor from rootstock. For me and most of the roses I selected, the difference between a band and a gallon-sized plant is about six months of growth. So generally, bands I receive in April/May will be the same size by late Autumn as gallon-size plants upon arrival. The trade-off in price for me has to do with shipping -- bigger plants cost more to send. If I am planning a big order, I'd rather get bands. If I want just a few, I'll go for gallons -- especially if those roses aren't as vigorous, or need an extra bit of bulk to get through Winter, or if I want more immediate impact. But overall, I like getting bands. Since most do well for me, it's rather satisfying to see them grow so much. :-) ~Christopher...See More
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