Adenium seedlings 16 weeks of age, time for a repot
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Comments (21)I finally ordered some seeds from KO! My life is a mess right now, I just switched from Android to iOS on my cell devices and I switched from Apple to Windows on my desk top. It was quite the task getting my payment over to Mr. Ko. He's been understanding, but I am sure he is sick of me. I finally have Obesum seeds coming though. several Yellows and a red. Also some white Minis, I may of over ordered. Ill let everyone know if I have some extras to give out when they get here, I have to go and throw out some runts to make room in my tent! Also I have seeds coming from Kesorn. What a great person! I chatted with him bit via email. I showed him two of my hydroponic seedlings and he really thought that was cool, he said he's only seen that done with food. He confirmed that the Black Pearl seedlings I have are Arabicum Socotranum crosses, then he told me about how several of the sellers in Thailand have different names for them but they are the same. I am assuming black pearl, and black knight are the same. and probably some other black ones as well. At least that's what I was lead to believe with the conversation we had. I also have seeds coming from another source in Australia. Some multiflorums.. I am hoping I get good germination on those I never used a source out side of Thailand except for Ko and I haven't received his seeds yet. I did however buy a small amount of seeds from Florida when I first started, it was almost a dollar a seed a nothing germinated. It turned out they were just seeds that were bought in Thailand who knows when, and they weren't even from one of the reputable ebay seed dealers. I will never do that again....See MoreAdenium repotting now?
Comments (12)Hi Rob- I had the same question a couple of weeks ago with my youngish plant in a 6 inch pot that had roots coming out the bottom. I am in your same area - S. Jersey just outside of Philadelphia, so I had the same concerns. Today I decided to follow the advice of some forum members and just do a minimal repotting, to a wider 6 inch azalea pot, and raised the caudex a bit to expose more of the twisty roots. Hope this minor intervention won't cause any major trauma. Last year I brought the plant inside around mid-October and kept it under lights - no dormancy, it just continued to grow nicely. I also have a ton of seedlings, started last fall and this spring, and plan to leave them in their original containers (plastic cups) for the winter. You have some fine plants - it's nice to know that adeniums are thriving (and flowering) in the Delaware Valley! Here are a few pix - "rootbound" (Aug. 17) and in new home (Sept. 2):...See MoreAt what age can adeniums safely go dormant?
Comments (11)I would definitely NOT say it's ideal, but this is how large mine were for the first winter. This photo was taken December 30th, about two months after I brought them in for the winter. You can see some of them have yellowed leaves that then dropped off. By February, about 2/3rds of their leaves had either been shed or had at least yellowed with brown tips. A few went bald entirely and most of the stems shriveled. But once I began to water more, they fattened back up. I did loose maybe 2 or 3 of them but that's all. With 400 seedlings that's a very acceptable rate. Will that deter flowering later? Probably yes and no. Yes because it means they were dormant and not growing from October through April at least. So by one year old they are still fairly small. But I imagine they'll still bloom just fine when they reach suitable sizes, even if it takes longer. Rick has made some great comments. I'm still learning as I go so I wouldn't use my example as typical or necessarily 'safe' but I think it's a reasonable assumption that yours is plenty large enough to go through a dormant winter. As I mentioned in my other thread, nature won't give a flip how big or old the seedlings are the first winter. They either make it or they don't but they aren't given any special shelter in nature that first season....See MoreRepotting Advice (pot size and best time)
Comments (4)Mahalo, ParadisePrincess! Great advice from Hyn. Photos really do help. I advise that you use your judgement. Adeniums are succulents and hold a tremendous amount of water in their roots, caudex, and stems. This is why you can leave them out of their pots for two months. It is also the reason why you cannot allow them to remain wet too long or they can succumb to rot. There is a soil volume vs plant mass principle that applies to all succulents. You never want to plant a succulent in more soil volume than necessary because the soil will retain water longer, increasing the chances for rot. Succulents like to drink up and dry out ... We say they don't like "wet feet." When you repot, simply leave approximately 1" of space on all sides at the widest part of the plant, usually at the roots. When it comes to soil, you have to make amendments that work for your region. Be careful with soil that hardens. I have given adeniums to my neighbors with clear instructions on substrate. The ones who chose to use local ready mixes have tiny plants in contrast to those who continue to use the loose soil I gave them. Our regions are similar ... I am in the US Caribbean. Soil-less substrate does not work for me. My plants wilt in it because we receive very high lumen, scorching sun. I am currently using a fast draining substrate for all my succulents: equal parts soil, perlite, pine bark, with 1/4 part gritty river sand. To that, you can add compost and, in smaller amounts, worm castings, lava rock, activated charcoal (not BBQ briquettes), etc. Beginning at age 1 month, it is a good practice to fertilize weekly at 1/4 strength, as these are heavy feeders. Alternately, you can feed monthly. In terms of pots, clay always wins hands-down because of their looks and porosity. They allow the roots to breathe, particularly in hot climates. Plastic pots do not breathe and temperatures at the root level can increase significantly. That said, it is my practice to grow my plants in plastic pots for two reasons: they are inexpensive and they do not overly constrict ... they expand with the plant. Once I see the pot of older plants deforming, I know it's time to repot. I grow from seed and they remain in plastic pots until approximately age 3 years, which is full maturity. I am considering "forever pots" for next year ,,, they will be clay. I grow my babies in yogurt cups, which I find perfect up to age 4 months. Then they go into 3" pots and on from there. Each plant grows differently per its genetics. I have little runts in 4" pots that are almost a year old! Just use the 1" around the widest part of the plant principle and you won't go wrong. If you plant an adenium in-ground in your region, it can easily grow 6' within 2 years ... The soil has to be very loose and you have to plant in a quick draining area that doesn't hold stagnant water. My neighbor used fallen leaves from her garden mixed into the soil bed with excellent results. Our ground soil is naturally layered soil, sand, and red clay. Maria Elena...See Moreaddicted2plants Southern IL USA
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