Where should I plant this tree?
nicole___
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Comments (5)Not really. I'm thinking I need something with dappled shade, that I'll be able to stand under someday. My husband and my dogs laugh at me because I spend a considerable amount of time standing in the backyard staring at things - sometimes space. I've stared long enough, though, to think I should plant some trees as close to the west wall as I can, so as to allow the most light on the plants in the earlier part of the day. Then, I read in Mary Irish's Month-by-Month book, you can grow everything here in the shade. I also read an article on azcentral.com about the gardens at the Pointe resort, down by Guadalupe. Apparently, the chef started a cook's garden outside the back door of the kitchen. He got so obsessed with it, he now has a garden all through a canyon behind the restaurant and it's completely shaded by mesquite trees. According to the article, things are growing quite prolifically there and the menu revolves around the garden. So, I'm wondering if shade is just good. Do I even need to be so technical about it? I don't know what I should be considering. I do know it's hotter than heck in my backyard and maybe the shade is for me, more than anything else... ;-)...See MoreShould I use root starter on my trees I just planted?
Comments (2)Root starters not really fertilizers but are typically plant growth hormone-based and sometimes with additions of various vitamins (like B1). For the most part, they are really quite unnecessary (especially the B1) for already growing plants but can be helpful when taking cuttings and propagating. They tend to be promoted by nursery staff as add-on sales but without any real understanding of what they can and can't do. One of the reasons that fall planting of trees and shrubs is so often recommended is that these plants in fall naturally undergo an extended period of root growth and root extension that will continue until the ground gets too cold. Plant roots are quite capable of growing perfectly well on their own without us messing about :-) In more than 30 years of professional gardening and countless 100's of trees planted, I've never used a root starter or stimulator product and never had a tree not do well from just a proper planting technique and adequate water. Just make sure you rough up the rootball or release any circling roots - that is ALL the stimulation or encouragement they need!! Myth of root stimulators....See MoreWhat tree should I plant?
Comments (37)"Metasequoia "ogon" seems like a nice choice, especially with the fall foliage, and I've always liked DR in general, but height may be a limiting factor, although I think I could move the tree further in so tall branches won't hit the power lines like with the sugar maple. Do you know how far the roots go? There's another sugar maple about 100 feet tall on one side of the house and a mulberry about 60 feet tall on the other. I wouldn't want the roots interfering with one another, but overall I like it" That nyssa sylvatica, blackgum suggestion was good as well. As far as the footprint of a Metasequoia Ogon, keep in mind the oldest one is 1990ish vintage if I recall, but they seem narrower than the main species. Mine grows FAST but with the yellow new foliage they just HAVE TO have less potential than a main species tree one would think. Every Metasequoia I have seen is pyramidal in shape. If a large sugar maple fit in a spot a Metasequoia should. Now the oldest we have in America are 1950ish plantings so there is a chance that like Taxodium (bald cypress), Metasequoia may go flat top with age....maybe after 100 or 200 years depending on light competition? The roots on limbed up species Metasequoias and every Ogon I have seen seem normal to me. The Missouri Botanical Garden has a thick sidewalk near a grove of big species trees with no apparent damage somehow. If you leave the lower limbs on a species tree they get a gnarly quite cool trunk and will show many surface roots. For some reason none of the limbed up ones or Ogonvs I have seen have survace roots....See MoreTricky Front Yard - Where should I plant a tree?
Comments (21)Your space is such that I would plan to add several somewhat smaller trees to provide shade. I would most likely put one tree south of the mailbox slightly closer to the road from the midpoint between the side street and the power line to give morning shade, and I might put another the same distance from the side street, but about 1/3 of the way down the side of the house north of the mailbox. I would choose a relatively narrow tree to plant between the power line and the buried utilities to give afternoon shade. Because the walkway approaches the house from the side, and the porch configuration makes the entry clearly visible, there's no need to avoid planting a tree in line with the door. I think that "rule" is largely due to needing to have the entry not hidden, and that won't be an issue with your home. I would do my best to avoid having branches growing through the power line if you live in an area that has high wind or heavy ice/snow storms. We had the feeder line to the house ripped off the side of the house during an ice storm from heavy branches pulling on it. An individual feeder line is low on the list of problems to be fixed after a storm, so you may have to wait awhile to get your power back. If you use the porch for sitting, I might plan to add a trellis for deciduous vines on the south side to keep the porch area cooler or provide some more immediate shade in the warm parts of the year. As far as specific trees, I wouldn't use any form of callery/Bradford pear. They stink when blooming and being that close to the house would be unpleasant. They are also invasive in your area, seeding into wild areas courtesy of birds that have eaten the fruit. Logan, lines aren't measured in square feet . . ....See Morenicole___
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