You need a range, not a wall oven and cooktop. The DW located away from the sink is wack. Not only would that be extremely awkward for workflow, but it would cost a lot more for the plumbing. A DW pump only has so much power to reach a certain distance. 10' feet is max for most. DW's are required to drain into an indirect drain, before a trap. If you have it away from the sink, you'd need to plumb something like a washing machine standpipe for it to drain into.

More expense for less function is never an idea that makes sense.

Terrible location for a DW. The kitchen is much too small to lose 30'' of counter space to a wall oven as well.

I have four kids and love to cook, mostly from scratch. I did fine with only one oven for 18 years, but am thrilled to have two ovens now. If you can't go without two ovens, you could get a range with two ovens (top over bottom would fit better in your kitchen than side by side), or you could make that microwave a speed oven.

A range worked perfectly fine for my parents and us two kids -- and both of my parents cooked.

I have three kids and a husband. I love a wall oven. But it didn't work in my new kitchen. I am doing a range instead. I thought long and hard about it. I needed the every day function over the half dozen times a year I used it.

Can the DW go where you have the 36" DB and lose a drawer in front of the bumpout to run plumbing? I have to tell you that I'm experiencing a "walls closing in" feeling just looking at the drawings ;)

Yes, a range is a cooktop/oven in the same appliance. You have chosen a separate cooktop with a wall oven to be placed underneath it. There is no advantage to doing that. A slide-in range gives you a similar appearance and would cost a lot less. However, it's way too soon to be concerned about how your kitchen looks. It's far more important to try to get you a functional kitchen first.

I have numbers on your kitchen drawing below. Can you please respond to each question, numbering our responses? It may help us all understand what's going on in your space better so we can help you better?

1. Is this a Washer/Dryer stack? Is this the only place in the house/apartment to put this? Or can it be someplace else in the kitchen or a different room? Possibly a nearby bathroom or closet.

2. Is this some kind of chimney? Is it still in use? Can it be removed or relocated?

3. Where does this opening lead to? What room?

4. What is this space used for?

5. What does this opening lead to? What room?

6. What is this space used for?

7. (This one is marked on the next drawing, see below. I forgot to mark it on the drawing above.) What is this? A garbage chute? Laundry chute? Can it be moved or eliminated?

Is it possible for you to draw a diagram for us that shows all the rooms on this floor and what they're used for? One on graph paper drawn to scale would be great. If you can do that, please also include how many inches or feet each square represents. If you don't have graph paper, something on regular paper with dimensions written in would be fine.

If nothing in the kitchen can be moved, then your best options are either of the places I have marked below. Although I would rather try to help you come up with a better kitchen layout. Either of these would be far superior to putting it between the fridge and cooktop/oven.

Oh, can any walls be removed or moved?

Doesn't the OP already have a range with OTR microwave displayed? Agree that we need to see the walls and surroundings to help. That aisle between the fridge and the island is too narrow - it looks like 30-36" max, assuming that an expensive counterdepth fridge is used. OP's idea of a galley may be best but hard to say from current information.

Here's a quick idea--you lose a little space in the corner, but the mini-peninsula (?) gains some extra counter space. The corner cabinets can be moved out to meet the range, or can be slightly recessed (red and yellow lines). The island can be redesigned to fit the space, but I think I'd use a cart with cabinets and a butcher block top, for extra prep space. You can also get a cutting board that fits over the sink to provide a little more work space.

ETA, corner void--in this plan, I'd put a trash pull-out under the sink:

Another ETA, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you had a w/d in the plan until I read funkycamper's list. I don't suppose they make those to fit a cart? ;)

In that case, remove the bottom 12" of island (cutting board area), and see my cutting board post, above.

I'm having trouble completely understanding your drawings but I would move the sink to where you have the oven/hob. Best function is to have the DW very near the sink. Both share the plumbing and it's handy for rinsing things before they go into the dishwasher.

I would buy a stove or a slide in range and place that on the bottom of that L shape where I see drawers - not sure what that tall thing is on top. This way you have landing space on either side of the stove.

Or move the sink/DW to your island?

So are you saying that the area I thought had a W/D and that some thought to be an island is the building vent/cement columns that can't be moved? OK, that's too bad but nothing to be done about it, right?

What is #2 in my list of questions? Could you give clear answers to the other questions, too? We all seem to be having a problem truly understanding your layout and your responses would help a lot.

If you really cook, and you end up really using that sink, steam from the hot water will eventually destroy the finish on the cabinets above. If you have young children I would not want to have a sink in this back corner as you're back will be to the children all the time.

The dishwasher discharge normally flows directly into your sink discharge, The dishwasher pump is not designed to push water further than about 6 feet so the dishwasher needs to be located within 6 feet of the sink (i.e. either next to the sink or just on the other side of the corner cabinet).

The space between these items seems too small. When you open each appliance you need to be able to stand in front of it and open it without hitting something behind you. Here it looks questionable as to whether you will be able to open the refrigerator all the way at all and you will certainly not be able to stand directly in front of it and open it Is this a walk-through kitchen? What is the reason for leaving the space is there a walkway or a window in front of the fridge?

Sorry for all the questions. You seem to have a really tricky area to work with. With a little more information you should begin to get some valuable input.

ETA, sorry I missed your last two posts before submitting mine--thank you, I think you answered the questions.

Do you have pictures of the current kitchen? Is it in the same space? It looks as if there is only enough room to open the fridge door (30"?), with no room to step back, so I just put a chair in front of my 30" fridge and tried it. It's doable, but not what any of us would consider comfortable. I think the same would be true for all of the full-size appliances, but if the range is moved to the bottom concrete column and the counter/cabinet is left off of the side of the concrete column in the middle of the room, it looks as if you'd still have a wider aisle, and some step-back space in the long aisle.

I was thinking of extended counter on the back of the 36" cab at the end, but if 12" is added, can a 12" x 36" wall cab be tacked onto the back, to make up for losing storage in the cabinet beside the concrete column and beside the sink?

If you can build out from the column, in the space over the 36" end cabinet, you could have more prep space between the sink and range/cooktop/oven. If that area can also be accessed from the room behind the kitchen, you could have a 24" pass through, with extra storage in wall cabinets, or a solid wall of cabinets, bookshelves, etc.

Instead of building out, maybe you could do extra deep cabinets with drawers or pull-outs to access the nether-reaches.

Here's the kitchen in the context of the relevant floor plan.

Thanks so much for ALL of your thinking and puzzling on this?! Incredible support.

I'm starting to wonder if I should just do a true galley kitchen, and is so - should the sink or the dishwasher (with two drawers so there's clearance to open them) be at the end farthest away from the fridge...?

Oh - obv the actual kitchen layout we're talking about here is an updated version of this drawing. This is just to show context in the apartment.

dcward, great idea--if modified cabinets or custom cabinets are feasible. The counter would be super-deep whatever the cabinet configuration, and would be a good place for small appliances. If the upper is 24" deep, the back half would be a great place to store the holiday dishes used only once a year.

Kaja, is this what you had in mind for a galley?

I prefer the sink on the end wall, and it seems that the DW drawers would be easier to load, but with DW drawers on the end wall, there would be more prep area. (If they wouldn't be too difficult to load when you're standing in front of the sink.) The sink could be moved closer to the column, but you'd need some elbow room. Maybe mock it up, and experiment.

What would you do with the area in the red circle?

Here's one with the sink and DW side-by-side and the range across
the room--with a nice prep area. That's a solid wall, or pony wall, behind the range,
with open areas on each side, and the cabinetry you'd planned. The
corner cab could be accessed from the LR. Red lines are where walls would close it off, if you don't want to see into the kitchen form the LR:

You have a very challenging space. With those narrow aisles, it is pretty much a one-butt kitchen. I'm not one of the creative gurus here so my ideas aren't fantastic but I'll throw them out for your consideration anyway. I think you need one of the creatives helping on this project.

I think you'll really regret trying a corner sink. They actually take up more space than one in a regular straight run of counter. While there are kitchens where a range or cooktop or sink makes sense in a kitchen, they are quite rare and usually very spacious.

You really need a single-door fridge. You don't have room for a French door. This way you can swing it open and not have to jockey around a door to grab stuff. I moved the range to the left a few inches to give you as much space as possible in the prep zone (area between range and sink). This gives you roughly 18" to the left of the range for a safe place to put pans, if needed. Then I moved the DW to the right of the sink.

In this one, I stole some space from your living/dining area for the fridge. I have no idea if you have room for that or not. This would give you a nice, long stretch of work space for prepping.

Are you able to expand into the living/dining area?

X-posting: Oh, I never thought of closing off the opening to living/dining. You are so clever, Mama Goose!

Thank you funkycamper, but it was the OP's idea (a galley).

BTW, I've been hoping palimpsest would stop in with some ideas. He's a pro who has experience with small urban kitchens.

And when she said galley, I just couldn't figure out how one would create a galley in that space. D'oh!

I think palimpsest should come into every kitchen discussion. :)

Just an FYI, a galley is wall of cabinets on each side of a wide corridor. You're looking at a single-wall kitchen. Like this? Well, if the sink is in the corner, you have no room for your elbows off to the right. It will make cleaning and using the sink extremely difficult and frustrating. Especially if you're trying to stand in about 20" of floor space because of the jag in the wall. You will have, at most, 36" prep space. That is the minimum recommendation but in those situations, there is other counter space in the kitchen.

Yeah, you could switch the sink and DW and that would work better in terms of not having to stand in the corner and having space for your elbows when working at the sink but your prep space would be on the wrong side of the sink. Of course, in your tiny kitchen, that wouldn't really matter. It's not like you have far to walk.

To be honest, I think you would really be short-changing yourself to do a single-wall. Most functional, single wall kitchen are quite a bit longer with more counter space. I think either of my ideas would be better. And either of Mama Goose's ideas would be even better than those. Mama G's ideas give you so much more counter space. It may be a paradigm shift for you but it's a shift in a great direction, not a bad one. I think paradigm shifts are usually good things so go for it! Unless someone else pops in with an even better idea, that is.

This may be a silly question but do you have any place else in your apartment that is appropriate for a refrigerator. I was thinking that you might do a small under-counter fridge in the kitchen itself but have another fridge elsewhere for additional storage. Like store the fixings for salads, your other veggies, meats, sauces and dairy in the big fridge elsewhere. Store in the kitchen the salad you just created, the meat that's marinading for dinner, Just a small thing of milk and a cube or two of butter, a yogurt or two and smaller blocks of cheese. Move from one to the other as needed. If it's close, it may not be a real hassle. You could have a cute market basket to put things in to move them. It would be kinda cute, right? If you just had an under-counter fridge in the kitchen itself, it would give you so much more counter space! That 36" would make a huge difference.

Or you might think about a narrower, taller fridge column. Check out ones by Bosch and Liebherr. Most who have the 30" wide ones say they hold about as much as a regular 36" fridge because of being taller and having more shelves. Again, you need counter space and even 6" more would be a big improvement. It would at least allow you to get that sink out of the corner so your right arm/elbow have room to move.