Leaf shape is directly related to the environment that you grow your plants in. How many of us have gotten a new cutting and when that cutting grows it's first new leaves they end up being twice as big as leaves on the cutting? Light intensity and especially moisture levels and humidity play a big role in the size a leaf can attain. Many Hoya species will naturally also have different sized and shaped leaves together on one plant. We also have to remember that when we trade cuttings we are all growing copies of one plant but there are other plants in other collections that are not from the same source and they will differ from each other just like a human brother or sister will. Plants are engaged in sexual reproduction and each seedling will be unique but will of course fall within a range that is accepted for a species. There are very few Hoyas that this could be and they include Hoya obscura, Hoya nabawensis from the Otostemma section and possibly Hoya gigantangensis from the Acanthostemms section. Hoya nabawensis has leaves with some silver flecks and a prominent mid rib with no visible veins and Hoya gigantangensis has more succulent leaves without veins and is altogether a much more difficult species to find. My vote is still on Hoya obscura. Mike

I don't think so. Leaves look like an asiatic. What is the height? If it's their first year, though, they will not achieve full height anyway. There is a cross between an asiatic and a longiflorum that is vigorous and has large flowers. It has that look. I got a batch by accident (lucky accident) in a group that were purchased as asiatics.

I thank both of you for your suggestions, Both suggestions look like it could be the answer. LOL I purchased a very distressed property with 4 acres and they are growing in a very over grown deep shade wooded area because of all the sap trees. They were probably planted in the 50s. I dug them up and have over 40 eyes, have moved them to the garden and will see what they look like in the sun. To be continued....LOL Thank you for taking the time to help me id.

The peppers shown are indeed one of the "scotchbonnet" varieties, of which (at last known count that I am aware of), there are over 70 varieties of true scotchbonnets, with many sub-varieties. All hot peppers, regardless of variety will vary greatly in the intensity of heat. Some of the factors that effect heat are: 1) Seed linage 2) Origin of seed 3) Weather 4) Soil and water 5) Individual genetics and mutations A particular pepper that is hot in one area and circumstance, may not be so hot in another. Even in my own growing area, seeds saved from a hot pepper one year may not be as hot the next, or completely the opposite. I try to mix seeds from 2 or 3 sources of the same variety each year. Here is a link that might be useful: Where Gardening And Outdoor Living Come Together