homertherat Yes, that's the kind of thing I mean. It is really annoying, and sometimes you can't possibly know that what you've ordered is what you actually need. And now that I think of it, I suspect that the reluctance to list seed numbers MIGHT be to avoid cost comparisons. The reason I suspect it is because small seed companies that really want your business almost always say how many seeds are included in packets. ===== But Susan, that's the point. Why should anyone NEED to contact the supplier to get this kind of information? It's a drain on everybody's time and maybe even patience. Why can't it be included with other information in the product blurb? Some of us don't have the time or inclination to go running after the supplier to provide information that could EASILY be included. I'd rather call them when there's a problem, not a lack of information.

Like pontyrogof I read this with interest because I'm thinking about getting back into the MG curriculum and I have experienced various behaviors and attitudes and procedures over the years. I guess I'll have to see for myself about our program here to make up my mind. I confess, I'm already starting out with a bit of a thud; I took the course many years ago and before I could do the hours I became ill for a long time. I approached one of the agents a few years ago about how to handle this (did I need to take the course again, just start hours, etc) and... he never got back to me. Fired off an email to our MG coordinator (figured the agent probably would have had to go there himself) a few days ago... and haven't heard back. Now, the coordinator is probably very busy so I may be jumping the gun. It would have been nice to get an 'I'll look into that' response at least, though. Hoping for a good outcome, Ging

It may be mild where you are, just as it was mild in FL, where the sender of my last hoya cuttings lives. The problem is, it is NOT mild here in WA, nor is it mild on the journey to AR. And USPS priority isn't always priority. The last shipment I recieved were Priority 2 day, and it took 5 days to get here. The cuttings suffered. I am sorry, but it would be a waste to send cuttings of cuttings and not have them survive. I am sticking to spring shipping, for the safety of the plants and the happiness of the exchangees! *As a further note, the reason I had you look at what I have for trade is so that you can look up different types of hoya and see what interests you. It is important for you to do this anyway, as different hoya require different care, eg. hoya caudata needs humidity and warmth, and likes to stay moist, whereas you could easily cause root rot in other hoya, if you give them the same care as caudata. And some hoya should be grown dry in the winter, whereas others like it cooler or really warm. Not to mention, when you look them up, you get to see the leaves and flowers, which is always a plus for any hoya connoisseur! *edited to add further thoughts This post was edited by AuroraWA on Mon, Dec 15, 14 at 22:23

You actually have to take into account a bunch of different things. I don't grow pumpkins personally but we had them in the garden when I was a kid and with a good grow we could get about 12 but it required that my family really keep up on the nutrients, watering, things like that. They weren't huge pumpkins or anything but we considered it a nice little harvest! Here's a lot more information than I ever needed to know about pumpkins but you might find it helpful. :)