Cedar growth and control... emerald V white
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Is an Arb actually a White Cedar?
Comments (13)Thuja occidentalis 'Smaragd' (Emerald Arborvitae) will almost always retain its conical shape, even as an old plant. This plant was selected because of its form. If you like the shape of the native trees you saw, you will need to get those cuttings to root since the Emerald arb. will never look like those trees, even in old age. I toured an amazing garden last Sunday that had "native" arborvitae and the trees were beautiful. The native trees have very different foliage (texture and form) and shape than all of the cultivars of thuja that are offered for sale. Regarding your "white cedar" question: you're dealing with a common name and common names vary depending on the region or even the neighborhood that you are in. Thuja occidentalis is NOT a "cedar"; true cedars belong to the genus cedrus. It's best to use the Latin names of plant so there is no question of the plant's identity. Most people are put-off by Latin names, but it's only because the names are unfamiliar to you. Once you start to use the Latin names, it gets easier and easier. Mike...See MoreShould I replace these Emerald green?
Comments (11)they just got snow burnt during winter. You see we all suffered these bouts of warming and freezing this year. when that happens portion of the plants will swell up in warming times and then when it freezes the cells will die. Freeze and warming cycles can damage plants. But your plant is fine. I'm just guessing the snow bank went up to the lower parts of the tree where it got affected. Trust me on this. Where the green parts are, it;s very lively. The slight yellowing just affected the tips but it's not spreading. The leaves beside it are very bright green. Looks good. When you start seeing more of a dull green colour and when you scrape the trunk and see a dull green or browning in the inner trunk then you can say the plant is dying. I guarantee you this is not the case. It just was a bit difficult of a winter but its recovering just fine. In due time, it will come back really nicely. The nice thing about emerald cedars they do fill in well. I have emerald cedars in my backyard. I know this....See MorePrivacy tree recommendations - Emerald Cedars are SLOW!!!
Comments (27)Thanks Vina. Actually your comment is quite timely as we have ended up moving. A number of factors made our wants for the house too incompatible with the space we had. We have moved to a ravine lot backing onto a creek and it was well worth the time and money. With the house you see in the picture, I had made some last ditched attempts at privacy. I pulled out all the Emerald Cedars and removed the maple tree. I sourced out a local grower of Hetz wintergreen and planted them last year. I suspect the Wintergreens will grow much faster than the Emerald Cedars and give more privacy. Best of luck with you efforts with the deciduous trees! Dale....See MoreBummed-emerald ash borers are killing my shade trees
Comments (23)Oak can be considered a weed species, if unwanted trees grow in your garden. And yes prolific seeding Ash can be definition of weed species. But know Ash does this, because its a "Pioneering" species. And also an ecosystems most influential Keystone species keeping, other invasive species in check. While securing ground so pre-settlement species like Oak can come back someday! Ash Pre 1950 before popular cultivars like Marshal seedless were sold by nurseries, Green Ash was even more iconic than Sycamore for its production of one strong apical dominant leader. These "Plant and grow above your roof" Green Ash can still be found today with ages of 60 and older. In fact, its a good way of estimating a trees age, and can determine if ones ash is younger or older than 60. So presently all the Green ash with one Roman column sized trunks, are those pre 1950 grown examples. A few owners who lost their old wild ash trees to EAB, but are keeping a seedling or two growing. Are shocked how their young trees require no structural pruning because they continue to be so apical dominant. One big difference between Green and White Ash, is how growth on end of limbs on Green Ash, curve upward. And growth habit of White Ash results in all limbs and branches pointing straight upward. White Ash, Sugar Maple, and American Elm, are powerhouse species that can handle growth of multiple limbs extending outward from one lower spot on trunk. Compared to say Callery pear trees, which fall apart with this growth habit. Those three hardwoods with this common trait, can continue to have conglomerate of multiple leaders stay well attached without self destructing. Horticulturally this is because they can handle included bark attachments, actually strengthening overtime by developing into one whole common mass of wood. As a Dendrologist observing thousands of felled trees, one cannot tell from outside that many times one single trunk had been made up from two or more trunks on Green Ash. And when compared to other species that produce twin trunks beginning low to ground, such as Silver Maple. Green Ash can easily become multitrunked tree, producing strongest attachments without fatal problem of included bark. For example, look at a Silver maple diverging into two large trunks, from a sideways view. And you will see pinching bulge extending outward. Yet on Ash with same structure, there is no pinch bulge. Because where two trunks converge, is all same wood without included bark in middle. Know that even Oaks can develop multiple leaders, when grown out in open. And when one finds an older multileader tree growing in middle of forest with all younger single leader trees surrounding it. These examples are called "Wolf" trees, which began growing after settlers cleared local forest during 1800's. Then new forest was later allowed to reclaim old riparian farmland, usually around 1900's. Its great that you all notice different unique growth habits between Green and White Ash. Even cooler is fact that there can be huge differences between wild species evolving from unique local conditions. So traits I point out, may not be true for Ash growing in your local area. One great example, is the wild variety of Biltmore White Ash from Ashville North Carolina which FL Olmsted had discovered. Which has pubescent fuzz on back of leaves, like Red Ash. At same time Scientists consider Red ash, just a variety of Green Ash. Another example is Junginger Autumn Purple White Ash variety a scientist found in Wisconsin local woods. And all those urban ones you see today, are clones that cannot seed. And before clearing of American forest which extended unbroken from East coast to Mississippi river. Tree hunters regularly discovered unique one of a kind examples they would officially characterize and list traits of. Then propagate new trees from cuttings for planting elsewhere....See Moresplaker
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