Informal tea rose hedge for warm climate
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Comments (5)ALAS! AARS is dead. Who'd a thunk ARS would out-live it? The American Rose Society rates roses, based upon reports from members. The problem with their ratings is that they are averaged nationally, and so don't reflect specific local conditions. IOW, in the beginning, we planted several roses rated very highly by ARS, only to discover that they were DRECH in our conditions. More better -- contact LOCAL rose societies for area-specific recommendations. They WILL know which HTs succeed in your area. Be careful, though, to specify if you do not plan to spray regularly (or at all) as that would probably significantly alter recommendations. And ARS can provide contacts for local rose societies in your area, so I would start at the American Rose Society website. Jeri...See MoreWarm Climate David Austin Rose Heights
Comments (16)Liezel: I've also read some bad reviews about Claire Austin, but the one we planted at Humpty Dumpty House has been our best performing rose this year. It's planted in a very well amended bed, gets underground drip irrigation as well as a hose blasting once in a while, and is spiraled around a pillar. I've only fed it once so far, for lack of time. Unfortunately, most of the roses here get morning shade and blazing afternoon sun, and our summers are very hot and dry. Claire was always blanketed in a dozen or more elegant blooms till early autumn when her blooms got smaller and eventually decreased in number as well. Since blooms decreased on all the other roses in the same garden, I'm guessing that shade was the culprit. With the autumn sun lower in the sky, tall hedges, and overgrown trees, the roses were pretty much in bright shade all day long. We're chipping away at the trees and hedges to bring in a bit of sunshine, and I'm curious to see what happens to the roses next. By the way, another elegant climber that's ecru with the slightest blush of apricot is Wollerton Old Hall, in case you have access to that one and don't need a pure white. Wooly has a deeper cup than Claire, and holds its blooms even in strong winds. Have fun with your choices! I am so happy with our new David Austin roses, and hope you will be too. Our Claire is shown below. jannike...See MoreHow much sun for roses in a very warm climate?
Comments (16)meslgh......... You have gotten advice from people local to you, so my two cents is of less value than what they have told you, but it may add a dimension you can use in your decision making. I live in a latitude further north than you and I live at a higher elevation, so even though we both live in zone 8a, the light is different up here than where you live. That's why the local advice is much better. Also, since I live in the mountains, my night temps cool off by 40 to 50 degrees and that gives the plants a chance to rehydrate themselves during the night ... pull moisture up from the root zone to the top growth. I don't know if that is true where you live. What I have learned about growing roses in an area of high heat (Heat zone 8), is that roses with thicker petal substance can handle more light and heat. Since I don't have any disease pressure once the day temps hit 85 degrees and stay there or higher, I prune for foliage. That means I don't take out anything that might produce foliage. The rose will abandon what it cannot use. I have found that the roses need as much foliage as possible to stimulate the plant to pull moisture up from the root zone. Once my roses have been in the ground for 3 to 4 years, they are much better at handling the light and the heat. I have some roses that only look wonderful in spring and fall and pretty lousy during the summer months. That's fine with me because I love the roses and I have enough other roses that do well in the summer months. My goal is not to strive for perfect blooms, but for a healthy plant. A healthy plant provides enough blooms to keep me happy. I hope this helps. Smiles, Lyn...See MoreQuestion about warm climate roses hardiness
Comments (15)Here we get some really extreme temperature shifts,even in the course of one day. I clearly remember shoveling deep snow away from my gate, sweating in the heat of the sun!!! then, the sun goes down and the temperatures plunge,and all the melted snow turns into ice.All year round there tends to be a huge difference between day and night temperatures; it's a very unhealthy climate , for people and plants, IMO. The sun is just SO hot! We were really struck by the difference of, say, the Irish climate, where there is no great temperature change between night and day,so no organism has to deal with the stress of constantly trying to adjust. Still, I don't know that this is particularly a problem for established plants. However I do zealously protect newly planted bare-root roses by mounding. One person on the forum kind of "sneered"at me for this, saying it wasn't necessary,but I disagree, and so do many Italian rose nurseries. it isn't just the temperture swings; the mounding helps guard against the canes drying out,for example, if it's sunny and windy. I mound with synthetic materials: wine corks and pieces of styrofoam ,held in place with rocks and gravel and sand, because one winter I had problems with disease,but most people don't seem to have this problem....See MoreAdam Harbeck
9 years ago
Here's a hedge (of sorts) of the noisette Crepuscule. It looks quite nice, but not enough fragrance for me.
jjpeace (zone 5b Canada)
9 years agoAdam Harbeck
9 years ago
ozmelodye
9 years agobrightstar123
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titian1 10b Sydney
9 years agoAdam Harbeck
9 years agolast modified: 9 years agoMutabilis is a beast with strong clambering tendencies. Don't get me wrong, its a fantastic evergreen rose that's always in flower, but its a behemoth. Mine is a 4m x 4m x 4m mountain that I have to clip away from the driveway.
My Archiduc Joseph has been in for a year and now he's over 5 feet and finally screening off the back of the garden. He doesn't like our hot summer, but is churning out buds right now.
He was only about a foot tall when he went in. Teas grow quickly.
brightstar123
9 years agoAdam Harbeck
9 years ago
jannorcal
9 years ago
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