Shaw Epic Engineered Hardwood Flooring?
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Problems with Engineered Flooring Splintering and More
Comments (43)Hallmark sent one of their guys out and inspected the floor. They claim this is all install and humidity. I keep my house at 35-45% humidity with a whole house humidifier. I had a curbside additional opinion and he said there is no way the floor could ever be refinished which I was told with the purchase of the wood by the retailer. Ultimately, it isn’t just the splinters but all the brushed areas are showing the wood underneath. Bottom line is this hallmark floor is garbage and I spent over 30k on flooring (install and boards) for a floor that won’t last 5 years. I am still contemplating if I have any further recourse and have yet to give negative reviews of the seller and of hallmark floors in every place I can- not that that matters. Below is the report. The Independent Inspector Concludes: o Manufacturing: no related issues observed o Site: The moisture content readings of the product do not support the ambient conditions of the site the day of this inspection....The low moisture content is likely contributing to the chipping/crackling/splintering of this product. The Rumba remote vacuum is not recommended for this type of product and can be a contributing factor. Robotic vacuums....can leave micro-scratches on the hardwood. Subsequent damage is not covered under warranty. o Installation: There are several planks with finish issues and significant edge damage which were filled after installation which should have been culled and not installed. o Performance/Expectation: 10-15% of the planks are exhibiting side and end edge chipping and splintering that has occurred since the product was installed – the issues are worsening with time. Face veneer splits/cracks have also appeared over time. Distributor rep. and Independent Inspector confirm the average Moisture Content (MC) of the flooring to be 5.2%. Our floors when packaged are dried to between 8-10% MC. This floor has lost a considerate amount moisture since install. As wood dries it shrinks and eventually cracks / splits as noted. The distributor rep. reported the edge damage appeared to be installation related. The Independent Inspector notes that fill was used after installation in an attempt to repair the damage. 2360 S. Archibald Ave. Ontario, CA 91761 Phone 909.947.7736 Fax 909.947.7776 Objectional noises are consistent with unapproved fasteners and or an out of flat subfloor. Also noted by the inspector and confirmed by the photos, the fastening schedule is every 7”- 9”. Per our Installation Instructions guide (www.hallmarkfloors.com) the fastening schedule for this floor is every 4”- 6”. This could also be a contributing factor to the objectional noises. Any objectional planks with perceived manufacturing defects should have been culled out at install and reported to the dealer. Our Maintenance & Warranty guide exclude the use of robotic vacuums on this floor and any subsequent damage. A history search of the production run installed in this home was preformed dating back to January 1, 2018. April 2018, we received into our Ontario facility over 31,000 sf. of this run from our factory. It has been sold out for some time. To date, no other claims have been received against this production run. Review of all the information provided, no manufacturing defects could be identified. Consequently, Hallmark Floors is unable to authorize any corrective measures under warranty....See MoreShaw Albright Oak engineered hardwood
Comments (0)Does anyone have experience with this specific flooring from Shaw? I’ve read reviews on their laminate but can’t find anything about the Albright Oak. Thanks :)...See Moresolid hardwood vs. engineered hardwood
Comments (21)I'm a fan of Hickory. Love it! I love it's STRONG variation! Yep. Variation is the word that can be used for Hickory. If you are going for "mid-tone" then it means the Hickory is stained. No problem. That's fine. Hickory takes a stain very nicely. But it will still have plenty of variation. The stain will even that out a little bit, but not entirely. The finish is UV cured urethane. I'm not very excited about that finish. If you are going for factory finish, you will want to work with the TOUGHEST finishes on the market (that's why you go with factory finished...for the TOUGH finish). The UV cured urethane is a ho-hum type of finish. Average would be the best way to describe it. The thickness of the plank is 3/4" = normal for sold. The plank width is 5" with random lengths UPTO 60" (5ft). That tells me there will be many planks in the 3' - 4' range. Again, this is ho-hum average. And with a wide plank product, it will need "glue assist". And Hickory certainly needs it because it has a bit more movement (less stable) than white oak. And then there is the "low gloss" format. The low-gloss finish on this depth of colour = nightmare to live with. It will show dust, etc as well as oily foot prints, sock prints, paw prints and will look hazy at certain times during the day. The "haze" is part of the chemical make up of the finish itself = that's how they take away the gloss...they haze it with a chemical additive. The haze goes away when you sand and refinish the floor. That's the only way to fix it. If you must have a mid-tone floor, I would recommend a TOUGHER finish (aluminum oxide or ceramic infused polyurethane) in a satin. Satin is FAR MORE livable. It offers a lovely glow without being shiny. It hides skin oils (like paw prints from dogs) because it is the same gloss level as skin oils....it isn't hazy....you get the idea....See MoreAnyone use Shaw hardwood floors?
Comments (2)We are very pleased with the Scufresist finish on our Shaw floors. We were boxed into the brand and limited in choices because we built a tract home, but I have to say that we are as happy as we can be with a prefinished hardwood. We have a 74 pound yellow lab. We do nothing to care for his nails other than walk him twice daily, but he has not put one scratch on the floor. He is older...so not running around much....but I still think that’s impressive. The floors at our last house were covered with scratches, and we were prepared for that here. Actually, we are especially surprised because Shaw’s ENGINEERED hardwood has gotten such terrible reviews. I’ll attach photos for you even though it’s not one of your choices. It’s marketed to builders as Solid Advantage 3 1/4” in saddle color. I think it is also called Golden Opportunity. You can see from the pics that it is what I believe is called “character grade”...knots and such but not an overwhelming amount. I included those specific planks so you would know. Both pics are of the same flooring taken at the same time in different parts of the house. I could do without the bevels, but site finished was not an option for us. Also, here is a link to a thread with photos of a Shaw wire-brushed solid hardwood floor. I believe the last photo in the thread may be an engineered variety. Shaw’s Epic engineered hardwood has a reputation for splitting and chipping. The veneer is very thin. https://www.houzz.com/discussions/4937448/shaw-solid-hardwood-floor ETA: I would not pick a flooring based on any online photos. Highly recommend you view samples in person....See Moredabjg
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