What's the most annoying home building/design jargon?
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Comments (63)Reminds me of years ago, I was working full time w/ a commute - 2 teenage boys; ExDH, airline pilot, on days off, at home, did nothing to help. I once said to him, that I just didn't understand how he could keep 300 people aloft at 35,000 feet but could not put the mayonnaise away.................. My DH now is pretty much a neat freak, to the point of annoyance. He insists on letting hot water run while washing up a few dishes. The problem is that he doesn't get all of them clean so I have to put them in the dishwasher anyway :-( Our hot water is heated in the boiler with fuel oil and you know how expensive that is!! He just doesn't get it and I have given up trying to get an 81 year old man to change his evil ways....See MoreJust got our kitchen design back for home build.. Input on "extras"?
Comments (19)1) Move the dishwasher to the right of the sink. The counter between the sink and the cooktop is the best prep area in the kitchen. If the dishwasher is to the left of the sink (as pictures), it's in the middle of your prep area. This means no one (including the cook) can open the dishwasher while someone is cooking without being massively in the cook's way. If you move the dishwasher to the right, you could could an entire meal with the dishwasher open, and it would never be in your way. 2) Swap all the base cabinets for drawers except the sink cabinet. You might also want to leave one slim base cabinet for cook sheets/casserole dishes, but that isn't necessary if you are going to put those items above the fridge or double ovens. 3) Swap the locations of the fridge and the double ovens. You want counter next to your ovens so you can put something hot down quickly and with little chance of bumping into others. Ideally, you want counter near the fridge too, but carrying something hot across the room can burn you or other. Carrying some stuff from the fridge across the room, while a bit annoying, is not a safety hazard. The fridge is also more often used than the ovens are. The fridge where it is currently will block the doorway every time it is open, which will be often. If you move it to where the double ovens are, you no long have the fridge road block. Also, the typical action flow of a kitchen is: fridge (get the food) --> big prep counter with adjacent sink (wash the food and mix/chop/peel it) --> either the cooktop or the oven (cook the food) If you swap the fridge and ovens as I have suggested, that puts your appliances in the same order as the actions in the kitchen. Namely, fridge --> sink and big counter between the sink and cooktop --> cooktop or ovens. This creates a good and efficient work floor. 4) If you move the double ovens as I suggest, make sure no one entering that doorway is likely to run into an open oven. Ovens are open less often than fridges, but it's a lot worse to walk into an open oven, so you don't want to risk that. I am hoping that doorway is to a pantry so this isn't an issue. 5) Is this kitchen going to have three ovens? Or is the range in the picture meant to be a cooktop? If it is the latter, then you want drawers under the cooktop too. 6) I wouldn't go for 36" + 10" stacked cabinets. I don't think you'll ever use the 10" tops of those cabinets, so really you are paying more for 36" of useful storage space when you could pay less for 42". I agree it'd be better for cabinets to go to the ceiling, so I'd ask how much for molding or whatever would extend the 42" cabinets to the top....See MoreJust got our kitchen design back for home build.. Input on "extras"?
Comments (33)My personal reaction is that those little cabinets way up high are useless. Decorative only, and once something like a pitcher is up there, it will never come back down again. I'm personally not willing to pay for that. I also like the 42"-high cabinets I have. I can put boxes of seldom-used stuff on the upper shelves, bcs they're behind doors. I'm short, so I would never go with those little shelves that raise the bottom of the cabinet up. Never. I can barely reach the second shelves of my cabinets anyway! And I'd totally lay down parchment, waxed paper, or newspapers (but probably not newspapers; they make me worry they'd draw more bugs) on the tops (I did get grease and dust mixed together up there; that's why I went against the modern trend and installed a soffit). If I were more worried about roaches, I wouldn't. I like lots of drawers, but not necessarily *all* drawers. I'd pay more for drawers, gladly. Regarding drawer slides: I want full extension; I'll pay tons extra to get it. I don't think dovetail is necessary, but often it's part of the package. The soft-close is nice, so I'd pay a little more to get it. Hope that helps!...See MoreWhat is the most expensive when building?
Comments (32)You talking to me? Or is the above post for everyone in general? Your post is total BS Architectrunnerguy. 99% of homeowners/builders have a budget and getting competitive bids is SMART, NOT CHEAP. The lower bids do not have to mean the cheapest quality. I have found in every instance the opposite to be true - every time! Big names mean big overhead. I own a small business. I get business because I do better work than the big guys at a lower rate. The subs we did hire do quality work- better than any home I have ever built or lived in. Maybe I got lucky, but my framer, carpenter/sider and cabinet maker are talented.- and yes, cost less- because they are small local craftsman. Again, cheaper does not mean inferior quality. The home we're building now is simple, because we wanted it that way. And by getting lower quotes (but again, NOT lower quality) we can have extras- R60 in the attic, Bibs in the walls, two foot roof overhangs, exterior and interior LED lighting, floors wood throughout, higher quality plumbing fixtures, counters, appliances, etc. And guess what? This 'cheap' home will have NO MORTGAGE. This home is also going to be the most energy efficient home I have ever owned. But we are lucky, we can do some of the work ourselves. What is wrong with that? So we are CHEAP because we: > Researched and hired the best local talent and kept the money in the local economy. I think you know the trickle down effect of this. > Educated ourselves on every aspect regarding home construction. Again, my partner is a smart contractor, so it wasn't a stretch. > Did some of the work ourselves. I wish you could know the satisfaction of doing an awesome job on your own home. Oh, but wait, that would be 'cheap'. > built a home that a big bank will NOT own. Therefore our son will not have to take out large student loans when he starts college next year, therefore he might be able to contribute to society instead of being a burden in the future- and his old parents might be able to save some money for retirement and long term insurance so the taxpayer won't have to pay for our 'cheap' old asses in the future. I don't know what your motivation was for your post (probably $) but it's just not true. You don't have to pay 25k to an architect or 50k to a kitchen designer to have a quality home- or to post on this forum. i would also say that since the merger with Houzz, this forum has really gone downhill. People in the building industry used to offer helpful advice here, but now all they do is try scare tactics- and not because they care, but because they want to make sure you over pay for their services. Why all the insecurity when people post about saving money and thinking outside the box some? There are always going to be people who will buy what they're selling, So what gives? And also know that there is one "pro" poster here that posts under 3 different names. I can't be the only one reading these forums for years that has noticed this. its just so deceptive and just plain wrong. I'll let you guess that one. in my opinion, I would not take any serious advice on these forums from people in the building industry - not since they merged with Houzz. But of course, that's just my "cheap", non-professional opinion....See Moreolldroo
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